gtxys 发表于 2005-1-3 21:04:00

2005世锦赛中国女单该派谁去?

<P>现在基本上有能力参加世锦赛的也就她们俩,许彬姝没有参加今年的大奖赛,所以基本上不太可能参加世锦赛,估计2006年以后会让她挑大梁的!至于方丹和刘艳,我做一下比较</P>
<P>出生年月 方丹 1985.3 VS 刘艳 1984.9</P>
<P>世锦赛成绩 方丹 2002(22名),2003(18名),2004(19名) VS 刘艳 未参加过世锦赛</P>
<P>今年大奖赛成绩 方丹 中国站(9名),法国站(12名) VS 刘艳 中国站(10名), 俄罗斯站(8名)</P>
<P>全国锦标赛名次 方丹 3名 VS 刘艳 1名</P>
<P>今年世锦赛,中国女单只有一个名额,会让谁去,请大家客观投票并说明理由,也许我们的投票并不能决定什么,但是起码代表我们自己的看法!我自己先不发言,大家please~~~</P>

figuresk8er 发表于 2005-1-7 20:41:00

<P>My question is, if we get a spot for the Olympics, who do we send?</P>
<P>It's pretty clear that the most important thing in Moscow is to get a spot for the Olympics, so what happens if we actually get it? Do we send the lady who earned the spot, or do we send another? Since Liu and Fang don't have a realistic chance at medaling, and will most likely retire after 2006, then why send them to the biggest competition? Xu is dubbed our hope for the future, then why not send her to the Olympics? Sure, she might bomb and finish last, but an Olympic experience is worth many many training sessions. But this way, it'll be very unfair for Fang/Liu (the one earning the Olympic berth), because she earned it in the first place. We don't want to be like the Swiss government not sending Lucinda Ruh to Nagano after she earned the spot in 97, do we? But if we send Xu, some are afraid she won't make it out of qualifying and then we'll be left with nothing at Torino.</P>
<P>4CC might very well be a good "second Nationals" to choose who to send. The Japanese ladies are selecting their 3rd member there too, except for them, it's because there are too many girls, and for us it's the lack of talent. :( If I had to choose between Fang and Liu, I'd go with Fang simply because of her experience. Neither of the girls have shown consistency, much less consistence to perform under PRESSURE, who knows what Liu might do at the biggest competition of her life to date? At least Fang has been there before and the judges at least know her. Nobody cares that Liu won Nationals (Chinese Nationals simply doesn't carry any weight in the judges' minds, most people don't even know that the competition actually took place) or that her highest finish in the GPs was 8th over Fang's 9th.</P>

鱼类 发表于 2005-1-3 21:13:00

谁最有希望进前二十四名,为中国队拿到零六年奥运会入场券,就派谁去~~

gtxys 发表于 2005-1-3 21:14:00

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>admin</I>在2005-1-3 21:13:20的发言:</B>
谁最有希望进前二十四名,为中国队拿到零六年奥运会入场券,就派谁去~~</DIV>
<P>问题就是谁最有希望啊?</P>

鱼类 发表于 2005-1-3 21:27:00

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>gtxys</I>在2005-1-3 21:14:03的发言:</B>


<P>问题就是谁最有希望啊?</P></DIV>
<P>方的技术直线下滑;刘的跳跃虽然比较稳定,但节目内容分极底。所以这两个人进前二十四都不太容易。这个难题交给国家队去吧。</P>

心潮澎湃 发表于 2005-1-3 23:07:00

2001年世锦赛女单中国是谁参加的,是孙诗因吗?多少名?

522t 发表于 2005-1-3 23:22:00

<P>照这么看真的很难说。论理应该是派有经验的人去,可如果技术下滑就不好比了;技术稳定比较吃香,但要想2个月在艺术表现力上有较大突破是很难的,而且国家不会给女单哪很多钱的。所以我觉得就得到时看方丹的状态了,要是技术好一些的话她的可能性还是比较大的。</P><P>我记得01年有一个中国选手滑的是一套像西域风格的SP,应该就是孙了吧。LP肯定没进去,我记得她摔了好几次,当时我还说以前不是还哪过铜牌吗怎么现在这么差的话。也就是那次关的EOE彻底把我俘虏了。(有点跑题:p)</P>

522t 发表于 2005-1-3 23:25:00

除了女单,男单能像上一届冬奥会那样拿到三张入场券吗?

loooop 发表于 2005-1-4 00:10:00

<P>我觉得或许应该派刘艳去.状态这东西,我觉得是很难得的.看了方丹法国站的表现,我看她对自己不是很有信心,本来能力就下降再加上状态不好,想拿到前24名不容易的.要进前24,短节目很关键,三个主要跳跃动作一个都不能闪失,方丹可能比较难做到.</P>
<P>刘艳虽然表现力比较差,节目内容分很低,但节目完成还是比较完整的,新规则下应该是有利的.大家都说方丹表现力好,也只是在国内相对好些.我想她如果多摔两个,节目内容分也救不了她的命.方丹目前唯一有点优势的就是她参加过好几次世界锦标赛,应该说大赛经验还是有的,或许关键时候经验能发挥些作用.综合起来看,我支持派刘艳去参加世界锦标赛.一家之言哦.</P>
<P>至于男单的名额问题,我看比较难.世界锦标赛不出意外应该是小乐子和张民参加.正常发挥两人都可以进前十.但是要进前六还是很不容易的.名额的分配计算我不清楚,我只知道如果进了前三那一定就有满额三个名额.想想2001年中国队的成绩,李运飞是第六,李成江好象也是前十吧,也许他们的成绩相加刚好够三个名额的分数.小乐子状态不错\张民现在的状态也还行,或许有戏吧.世界锦标赛还有三个月,保佑他们都不要受伤.</P>

鱼类 发表于 2005-1-4 07:50:00

只有李成江和张民两个人的排名加起来小于或等于13,才有可能为中国队争到到来年的三个名额。双人是没问题了,冰舞和女单是绝无可能了。男单李成江和张民要是超水平发挥还是有可能的。

花样王子 发表于 2005-1-4 09:20:00

不用讨论了,如果女单就一个参赛名额那就是刘艳了,原因很简单,刘艳2004年国内锦标赛第一大奖赛排名高于方丹,而且目前刘艳的技术水平是上升期,况且刘艳和方丹中间还夹着小许.

loooop 发表于 2005-1-4 18:48:00

<P>呵呵,gtxys的投票形同虚设,为什么大家都不投票呢?</P><P>照admin说的,那明年男单两个名额没问题,三个名额非常非常非常地难,张民和小乐子必须自始自终滑出自己的最好水平.</P>

gtxys 发表于 2005-1-4 18:54:00

<P>其实我觉得小乐和张民要是能滑出自己的真实水平,就能争取到3个名额了,问题就是他俩一到比赛的时候就滑得比训练时候要糟糕,尤其是张民~~</P>
<P>P.S:呵呵~~投票是次要的,主要还是大家的发言最宝贵!!</P>

liangzi 发表于 2005-1-4 19:06:00

<P>最近一次比赛谁的成绩好就谁去~</P>

鱼类 发表于 2005-1-4 19:14:00

四大洲她俩肯定都参加,谁的成绩好就派谁去吧。
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