Tamara Moskvina新采访
<P>由FSU上的Trinity翻译成英文</P><P>原俄文采访<a href="http://www.newizv.ru/news/2005-12-08/36738/" target="_blank" ><FONT color=#22229c>http://www.newizv.ru/news/2005-12-08/36738/</FONT></A></P>
<P>Tamara Moskvina: I'm glad I will have one more Olympics
Author: Oksana Tonkacheeva
Tamara Moskvina is the most experienced mentor out of all Russian coaches that are going to the Olympics. These are her seventh Games, and her pairs became the champions at four of them. This time, she is taking her new students, Julia Obertas and Sergei Slavnov. We didn't start our conversation with them, but with Elena Berezhnaya - Anton Sikharulidze, or to be exact, with the situation they got into at SLC.
Q: Tamara Nikolaeva, did those Olympics left an unpleasant taste?
A: Why unpleasant? We became famous! We got into all the TV shows. We were interviewed by the most popular journalists in the World. The whole World was talking about us! Long after that, we couldn't travel calmly - we were recognized on the planes, people pointed at us... So, it's how you look at things. <B>My opinion: what's bad about it? We didn't steal anything from anyone.
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Q: The feeling remanis that Lena and Anton's medal was stolen from us. You know the whole country was worrying for them...
A: When I was in the meeting with Rogge, he asked me directly - are you going to come for the second award ceremony? I said yes, we will go because we respect your decision, IOC and ISU, our management. If everybody made this decision, what can we do?
Q: What would your personal decision, without the management, would be?
A:<b> I still always think that bad peace is better than any war, in any variation. You don't kill your enemies, right? You don't turn your back to them even thought you want to do it sometimes, you do otherwise - you smile.</b> I know, you, the reporters, wrote that it was unfair. It's not your fault our press wasn't heard. Of course, if our people could voice their concerns on time and say, look how the short program was judges, maybe everything would've been different. What can we say now?
Q: Do you think the repeat of the similar scandal in Turin is possible?
A: Our judging is still subjective. Some like the minister, some - the minister's wife, and some - the minister's daughter. So, the will always be the leanings from the common opinion. And if there is not a common opinion... <B>On the other hand, the new judging system is a law that has to be obeyed, not discussed. So, with Obertas/Slavnov, we set our Olympics programs to match the new rules and clarifications from ISU.</B> By the way, these clarifications were of benefit to the skaters beucase they don't allow to interpert the rules freely. If it's written down that you have to balance on each foot in every position, it's easier to understand than just balance. Then everyone would invent something.
Q: The progres in Obertas/Slavnov's skating is noticeable even for non-professionals, but it's a bit early for them to contend for Olympic medals. Maybey when you and your students go for the victory only, as it happened before, your mood and emotions as a coach is entirely different. Am I right?
A: Everything is the same, only the goals are different. Julia and Sergei are not the leaders yet, they are only pair #3 on Russian team, but I'm preparing them so they would be able to grab a chance to win a medal if they suddently get this chance.
Q: Are they anxious? It's their first Olympics.
A: My assistant Oksana Kazakova is a big specialist in the psychology field. She can joke sometimes, and she could yell a little, but she is great with transferring her experience when it comes to psychological pressur and patriotic responsibility. The team became more experienced and mentally stronger. Still, no matter how much you prepare, everyone will worry. You will too.
Q: Personally, are you bothered by anything, scared or are you glad?
A: Nothing scares me anymore. As for being glad... I will have one more Olympics. I have big responsibility, I'm still in the <P><b>Moskvina说得真好，喜欢她对比赛的积极态度和对不公正的平和心态，我想这也是她在双人滑领域屹立20多年始终不倒的原因之一。</P><P></P><P>我觉得年轻一代的教练员，像Vasiliev,包括姚滨，都应该学一学Moskvina的良好心态。</b></P> <P>我觉得姚教练的心态没什么不好~~他的心态很好~~面对别人的攻击也没做出什么过激的举动,而且他也知道咱们的选手的弱点,不足,而且他在02年盐湖城奥运会上也做得比较好~~面对这样的教练还要苛求什么呢?!!</P><P>到是像VASILIEV这样的教练应该想TAMARA和姚教练好好学习~~</P> <DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>yueguang</I>在2005-12-11 17:46:31的发言：</B>
<P>我觉得姚教练的心态没什么不好~~他的心态很好~~面对别人的攻击也没做出什么过激的举动,而且他也知道咱们的选手的弱点,不足,而且他在02年盐湖城奥运会上也做得比较好~~面对这样的教练还要苛求什么呢?!!</P>
<P>到是像VASILIEV这样的教练应该想TAMARA和姚教练好好学习~~</P></DIV>
<P>我并不是说姚滨在对待VASILIEV的事上什么不对。姚滨是一个优秀的教练，但他在理解规则和对待裁判的问题上有些问题，这可能也和上边给他很大压力有关。像TAMARA这样老资格的教练尚能不断适应规则，面对不公平的现象也能从容面对，看看上面的采访，她是怎么看待盐湖城的那场风波的，姚滨没有必要遇到困难就向媒体抱怨，这解决不了问题，认真理解规则，遇到有争议的问题多和裁判、国际滑联沟通才是最重要的。
<P>那么请问你怎么知道他没有去解决啊?!!如果说这个问题不是他一个人能解决的,他能有什么办法?!!规则问题摆在那儿呢~~他也向ISU提过,可人家答复得非常模糊,难道你有什么更好的办法吗?!!</P>
<P>我就不知道为什么姚教练向媒体说点什么就是抱怨了??!!难道他说的不对吗?!!别人做错了事情,申诉不成,难道连说都不让说了吗?!!他要是不向记者说,我们大家怎么能知道他向ISU提出过要求,又怎么能知道ISU的答复那么模糊?!!!</P>
<P>我实在不能理解这样的思维~~</P>
TAMARA居然培养出了V那样的学生,老太太八成很心寒......... <P>我觉得我们的教练太在意裁判的问题了……，</P><P>在2001年的世锦赛上我们就一直指责裁判不公，使申赵冠军旁落……，当时只看报道我也很气愤，但看过视频之后却觉得那是理所当然的结果。</P><P>教练对裁判太敏感是会给选手的心理带来一定负面影响，心态平和一些更有利于选手发挥。</P> <DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>blue</I>在2005-12-11 18:39:32的发言：</B>
<P>姚滨是一个优秀的教练，但他在理解规则和对待裁判的问题上有些问题，这可能也和上边给他很大压力有关。像TAMARA这样老资格的教练尚能不断适应规则，面对不公平的现象也能从容面对，看看上面的采访，她是怎么看待盐湖城的那场风波的，姚滨没有必要遇到困难就向媒体抱怨，这解决不了问题，认真理解规则，遇到有争议的问题多和裁判、国际滑联沟通才是最重要的。
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<P>任何人面对采访都会有一个"姿态"的问题,何况金牌风波已经过去四年了,TAMARA见的场面那么多,这样一个没有什么新意的采访,说话平静是很正常的.
<P>现在除了SZ,PANGTONG和ZZ的节目我们都已经看到了,绝大部分动作的定级情况都是不错的,法国站出的状况姚和技术专家已经沟通过了,回过头来再跟媒体说说没什么不对嘛.聪明的人就要懂得利用身边的一切资源促成对自己有利的事,没有媒体的力量,SP没有不停地哭诉,向媒体抱怨,让媒体造势,让ISU改判,能戴上金牌?那是做梦!!!虽然是补给的金牌,但在奥运史上,谁也不能否认他们是冠军了........
<P>所以,没有必要动不动就说姚的不是,中国双人滑要想站上最高领奖台,还得靠他........</P> <DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>yiyi0380</I>在2005-12-11 19:19:31的发言：</B>
<P>我觉得我们的教练太在意裁判的问题了……，</P>
<P>在2001年的世锦赛上我们就一直指责裁判不公，使申赵冠军旁落……，当时只看报道我也很气愤，但看过视频之后却觉得那是理所当然的结果。</P>
<P>教练对裁判太敏感是会给选手的心理带来一定负面影响，心态平和一些更有利于选手发挥。</P></DIV>
<P>你搞错了,法国站的问题是技术专家的事,和裁判没什么关系.....何况那技术专家就是乱来.....</P> <P>关于01年世界锦标赛,我曾看过姚教练的采访,他当时就说,三对选手谁拿冠军都是可以接受的~~这就很说明了他的心态~~难道这也算抱怨吗?!!</P>
<P>再说当年小雪他们的节目分的确是打得太低了,名次没问题,但我觉得他们的节目分打得实在让我心寒~~</P>
PS:还有媒体的报道有时候特能添油加醋~~~除了被采访人说的外,他们还很容易加一些自己的东西~~与其说是姚教练到处抱怨,还不如说是媒体自己抱怨~~最好还是看看电视采访~~
<P>我觉得小雪他们的节目分在BS之后是很正常的事，在他们之前才奇怪呢。</P> <P>B/S当时的节目分应该是最高的~~那样的节目只有他们才能滑出来~~可S/Z他们的节目分打得也太低了~~</P><P>我是因为这个寒心~~不是说觉得低了就应该比谁高的问题~~</P> 艺术分超过BS是不可能,但也不至于给5.5,裁判怎么不干脆打个5.0,说白了胆子还是不够大啊......... <P>02年盐湖城冬奥会的事情过了那么多年了还是时时被人挂在嘴边~~</P><P>怎么tamara和b/s一辈子逃脱不了别人的质疑了~~有没搞错，b/s才是受害者，被盗窃者！</P><P>那天我看纪实频道，说全世界各地的侏儒们到盐湖城聚会，搞餐会啦，舞会啦，还有侏儒运动会。然后那个解说说了一句“这里只有公平竞争，没有溜冰丑闻”。</P><P>到底是美国引进的片子，说到盐湖城就要说当时双人滑的事情，真可恶！</P><P>我说大家怎么从moskvina的采访扯到姚滨啦~~</P><P>就算姚滨再出色，但毕竟资历没tamara深，经历过的没tamara多，即便有些方面表现得没tamara心平气和也很正常嘛。</P><P>至于01年的事情，无论我们冰迷怎么评论当时的b/s，s/p和s/z，我觉得姚滨和s/z都应该不介意了，因为现在他们肩负着更大的使命。</P> <P>所以说那个白痴记者的采访没有丝毫意思........</P>
<P>"这里只有公平竞争，没有溜冰丑闻".........这句好.......orz..........</P>