<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>带点醉意的笑</I>在2006-2-9 21:52:19的发言：</B>
<P>这个签抽的，咱们国家的选手依旧是那么靠前，庞佟和申赵一定要打好头两炮啊，最后一组真是恐怖，最后一个出场的SS抽到了上上签。</P>
<DIV class=titolo4>Pairs Figure Skating</DIV>
<DIV><B>Pairs Short Program</B> </DIV>
<DIV><a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/OlympicGames/venues/venue_PAL.html" target="_blank" >Palavela</A> - Sat 11 February 2006 - Start time19:00</DIV>
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<TD class=idfdata><B>Warm-Up Group No. 1</B> </TD>
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<TD class=idfdata>AGANINA Marina / KNYAZEV Artem </TD>
<TD class=idfdata-end><a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_UZB_1.html" target="_blank" ><IMG src="http://www.torino2006.org/resources/NOCFLAG/UZB.gif"></A> <a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_UZB_1.html" target="_blank" >UZB</A> </TD></TR>
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<TD class=idfdata>VOLOSOZHAR Tatiana / MOROZOV Stanislav </TD>
<TD class=idfdata-end><a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_UKR_1.html" target="_blank" ><IMG src="http://www.torino2006.org/resources/NOCFLAG/UKR.gif"></A> <a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_UKR_1.html" target="_blank" >UKR</A> </TD></TR>
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<TD class=idfdata>SPASSOVA Rumiana / TODOROV Stanimir </TD>
<TD class=idfdata-end><a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_BUL_1.html" target="_blank" ><IMG src="http://www.torino2006.org/resources/NOCFLAG/BUL.gif"></A> <a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_BUL_1.html" target="_blank" >BUL</A> </TD></TR>
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<TD class=idfdata>INOUE Rena / BALDWIN John </TD>
<TD class=idfdata-end><a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_USA_1.html" target="_blank" ><IMG src="http://www.torino2006.org/resources/NOCFLAG/USA.gif"></A> <a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_USA_1.html" target="_blank" >USA</A> </TD></TR>
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<TD class=idfdata><B>Warm-Up Group No. 2</B> </TD>
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<TD class=idfdata>PANG Qing / TONG Jian </TD>
<TD class=idfdata-end><a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_CHN_1.html" target="_blank" ><IMG src="http://www.torino2006.org/resources/NOCFLAG/CHN.gif"></A> <a href="http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_CHN_1.html" target="_blank" >CHN</A> </TD></TR>
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<TD class=idfdata>SHEN Xue / ZHAO Hongbo </TD>
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<TD class=idfdata>PHYO Yong Myong / JONG Yong Hyok </TD>
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<TD class=idfdata>PLA Marylin / BONHEUR Yannick </TD>
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<TD class=idfdata>BELOGLAZOVA Julia / BEKH And
<P>又不是什么好签!</P>
<P>我想知道大赛前的抽签程序到底是什么样的啊?这次怎么和上次世锦赛的签很相似啊???</P>
这个签也不是太糟,只要比好了,还是不错的,不过可能要吃点亏.不过前面的水平不是很高,和前面相对比,一旦滑出了水平分数还是不错的.
<P>这次NBC转播阵容真是强大，在转播团队里还请到了Jamie Sale&David Pelletier(当然现在已经是小两口了），不知他们是不是要担当像espn本赛季Skate America给维特安排的那种角色。很期待他们这次能调动各种资源，采用各种方式全面报道和转播花样滑冰赛事。 </P>
<P>下面转一篇有关David Pelletier观看练习后评论的文章，他提到夺冠大热门应是TTMM，而赵的的训练并不尽人意，不能对申赵期望太大，整个训练看完，他较喜欢张丹张昊等，文章内容中还有对Ingo Steuer间谍事件等方面的评论等，挺有意思的小文。</P>
<P>Pairs set to open figure skating competition<br>Canadian Press</P>
<P>Turin — David Pelletier sat with his wife, Jamie Sale, watching a pairs practice at the Palavela, the Olympic figure skating venue, and was thankful they were observers rather than participants.</P>
<P>"I can assure you I have no desire to be on the ice," Pelletier said. "I have absolutely no desire to go through that again."</P>
<P>Sale and Pelletier are part of the NBC crew covering the sport, and they'll be having a lot more fun than they did four years ago in Salt Lake City when a judging scandal robbed Canada's stars of outright victory and left them co-champions.</P>
<P>The furor forced the abandonment of the traditional 6.0-is-perfect scoring, and Pelletier doesn't mind in the least that it's gone. He likes the new cumulative points system.</P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>"In pairs, it used to be that, if you were considered a top team and if you landed your throw and you landed your jumps, you'd be set," he said. "Now, if you botch your side-by-side spin, if you botch your footwork, or if you don't put any thought into your pairs spin, and you go onto the ice with easy lifts which I've seen top pairs do, then you're doomed.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>"Everything counts now, and that's really cool. Skaters have to put thought into every move they make and use different strategies."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>He disagrees with those who say that, because there is so much attention in the new scoring system to technical details, skaters' creativity is being diminished.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>"I don't understand why people say that," Pelletier said. "You get bullet points for coming into a lift in a different way and for making other original moves.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>"That's creativity to me. I'm seeing footwork that is more original than ever."</FONT></P>
<P>The pairs event opens the figure skating competition at these Games on Saturday.</P>
<P>Canada's pairs will be national champions Valerie Marcoux of Gatineau, Que., and Craig Buntin of Kelowna, B.C., who finished ninth at the 2005 world championships, and Jessica Dube of Drummondville, Que., and Bryce Davison of Cambridge, Ont.</P>
<P>The favourites to win gold are Tatiana Totmianina and Maxim Marinin of Russia, who have won the last two world titles. Their personal best (PB) overall mark is 198.49.</P>
<P>The PB for Marcoux and Buntin is 174.92, and for Dube and Davison it's 157.48, so they're well back of the contenders.</P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>Xue Shen and Hongbo Zhao of China, who were world champions for two years after Sale and Pelletier retired after Salt Lake City, have the highest PB of all the pairs, 206.54, but Zhao is struggling to regain top form after tearing an Achilles tendon last August.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>"He hasn't been practising real well," said Pelletier. "I don't think he's competed for nearly a year, and this is no dress rehearsal. It's going to be tough on them."</FONT></P>
<P>Aliona Savchenko and Robin Szolkowy of Germany (PB 188.08) and Dan Zhang and Hao Zhang of China (PB 186.12) are other leading medal contenders.</P>
<P><FONT color=#ff0000>"I've watched practices and I like Zhang and Zhang," said Pelletier.</FONT></P>
<P>Savchenko and Szolkowy have their coach, Ingo Steuer, with them after a Berlin court ruled Monday he should be on the German team despite being deleted by his Olympic federation on Jan. 25 for a past affiliation with the secret police in the former East Germany. The court ruling will be appealed, Germa
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<P>呵呵,只要LP能抽到好签就好了~~~</P>
<P>我希望三对都能出现在最后一组~但按照通常的成绩来看很可能只有S/Z有可能进入最后一组,而且他们必须发挥好了~~毕竟老赵有伤啊~~</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：带点醉意的笑<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 22:21:20<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>以这样的抽签顺序和本赛季各队顶尖选手短节目表现来看，我现在有种预感，咱们的三对选手可能都要在长节目倒数第二组出场了，好在就COP评分系统来看，由倒数第二组出场的选手获得金牌也不会是什么奇怪的事。</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：小猪飞旋<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 22:22:08<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>可以说，中国队短节目抽了个下签。</P>
<P>特别是PT和SZ，两个排在一起，又那么靠前。</P>
<P>俄罗斯人怎么总是这么好命！</P>
<P>但我不认为中国队只有SZ才能进入最后一组，ZZ滑好了也有很大希望。楼上朋友说的中国队全进入第二组，是最不希望看到的情况。</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：风铃<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 22:30:27<BR><BR>--<BR>我只知道这个签让我非常不好安排睡眠时间<IMG src="http://www.chinaice.org/2635/Skins/spring/emot/em01.gif"> <BR>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：sunshine<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 22:32:38<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>我个人觉得sp之后进入最后一组的可能是S/Z T/M S/S 剩下的一个名额可能在pv/tv, pang/tong和z/z之间产生。 Z/Z的sp在这个赛季并不占优势，两次不敌S/S, 而且10运会也排在pang/tong之后，对于他们滑进最后一组不是非常乐观，但是他们自由滑发挥正常，夺牌是很有希望的。</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：风铃<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 22:34:00<BR><BR>--<BR>大家都正常发挥的话，ZZ的短节目没有优势 <BR>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：带点醉意的笑<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 22:47:19<BR><BR>--<BR>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>风铃</I>在2006-2-9 22:30:27的发言：</B><BR>我只知道这个签让我非常不好安排睡眠时间<IMG src="http://www.chinaice.org/2635/Skins/spring/emot/em01.gif"></DIV>
<P>大礼拜天的，熬到早上再睡吧^_^</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：xujin0922<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 23:06:46<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>哪个家伙抽的,谁知道?</P>
<P>难道这里面真没猫腻吗?</P>
<P>天知道</P><BR>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：冰清<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 23:14:33<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>印象里这次的抽签05年世锦赛很象,又重新查了一下,果不其然.</P>
<P> 05 06<BR>PT 5 5<BR>SZ 6 6<BR>ZZ 12 11<BR>SS 18 20<BR>OS 15 18<BR>IB 3 4<BR>ZS 14 15<BR>MB 19 17<BR>PvTv 20 14<BR>TM 9 19</P>
<P>只有TM和PvTv变动大些.想到上次世锦赛的情况,心里开始有非常不好的预感......</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：柏山艾莉<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 23:20:54<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>这签抽得真是.......</P>
<P>不过希望三对选手能正常发挥 我觉得S/Z只要不出大问题 最后一组是能进的 另外Z/Z的短节目实在比较一般 P/T的稳定性值得商榷 所以客观一点考虑LP最后一组可能有两组RUS 一组CHN 和一组GER</P>
<P>希望LP里三对选手能好好发挥啊</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：loooop<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 23:23:33<BR><BR>--<BR>还是靠实力说话吧，我只希望PCS这玩意儿别再甜蜜得水涨船高了...... <BR>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：青鸟jerry<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-9 23:32:21<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>这个签确实不怎么好~~</P>
<P>不过相信应该能有一对进入最后一组的~</P>
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<TD vAlign=center align=top>--作者：陆屿<BR>--发布时间：2006-2-10 0:01:29<BR><BR>--<BR>
<P>谁了解朝鲜选手PHYO Yong Myong / JONG Yong Hyok呢? 呆会去查下他们的资料。</P>
<P>会不会有惊喜呵!</P>
<P>我觉得中国三对短节目只要滑得完整，避免小失误就好了。这个顺序有点不利，但美国的INOUE Rena / BALDWIN John在第一组出现了，他们的实力在7至10名之间，可以垫高一点分数，所以还不算太糟呵！</P><IM
<P>谈到NBC的转播，他们一定会在转播中掐掉某些选手的短节目而转到其它有美国人参加的赛事去的，再加上那些让人又爱又恨的花絮时段，现在真不好说他们会怎么取舍，fsu上有段很有趣并且很在理的评论，呵呵，我就是希望他们别把pangtong和mb给掐了，而关于申赵的花絮可是一定要看的：</P>
<DIV>They will keep us in suspense until the very end with Aliona und Robin!!!!<BR><BR>hope NBC doesnt chack the canadians from the last group, they could show entire last group (yeah right)<BR><BR>I bet NBC will show in ther 'delayed and mutilated' coverage the follow pairs:<BR><BR>start broadcasting with who else? the americans, i predict a fluff on them<BR>4 INOUE Rena / BALDWIN John, United States USA <BR><BR>BIG FLUFF AND THEN<BR>6 SHEN Xue / ZHAO Hongbo CHN <BR><BR>BREAK for other sports, then:<BR>10 HINZMANN Marcy / PARCHEM Aaron USA <BR>11 ZHANG Dan / ZHANG Hao CHN<BR>14 PETROVA Maria / TIKHONOV Alexei RUS<BR><BR>BREAK for other sports and around 11:00 PM we will see the final three couples<BR>18 OBERTAS Julia / SLAVNOV Sergei RUS<BR>Mini-fluff on Tatiana's fall <BR>19 TOTMIANINA Tatiana / MARININ Maxim RUS <BR>FLUFF (Citizenship, STASI Steuer) then:<BR>20 SAVCHENKO Aliona / SZOLKOWY Robin GER</DIV><!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
<P>最后一组实力超强啊，我们的选手抽签真的不乐观．现在看来，t/m, s/s进入最后一组应该没问题，其他的选手就要看发挥了，虽然新规则对倒数第二组出场影响不是太大，但如果倒数第二组出场，自由滑又抽了一个靠前的签，夺牌真的就很困难了。因为打分时第二遍分影响还是有的，自由滑出场靠前就要看对手的发挥，如果我们跟对手发挥的成绩相当，出场早的一般分数会被压低。</P>
<P>我们的选手短节目本来就竞争力稍弱，现在形势更加严峻了，祈祷我们三对选手都完美发挥。即使落到倒数第二组，成绩也别被拉开，这样自由滑才有希望赢回来。</P>
<P>其实这次抽签很不利耶，在我看来如果这次短节目要有好名次，有很多因素！～</P>
<P>首先，ＰＡＮＧ／ＴＯＮＧ与Ｓ／Ｚ用的都是狂帕，这样有点不好．所以ＰＡＮＧＴＯＮＧ要发挥好点，这样才能给Ｓ／Ｚ垫分！但是Ｓ／Ｚ就要发挥完整才行！Ｚ／Ｚ抽到的签很差很有可能致使Ｚ／Ｚ，ＰＡＮＧ／ＴＯＮＧ排在第５，６而不能在最后一组ＬＰ出场！不能忽略俄国的Ｐ／Ｔ他们的分数如果低于Ｓ／Ｚ，Ｓ／Ｚ进前两的机会就很大，如果Ｐ／Ｔ高于Ｓ／Ｚ那么Ｓ／Ｚ很有可能排在第四！！！这次最大赢家就算Ｔ／Ｍ，Ｓ／Ｓ了！！！！我有点怀疑这次短节目下来中国的三队排在第４－６！！！</P>
<P>其实我种预感Ｚ／Ｚ在ＬＰ上一定会用抛四你看吗？都是赌，而Ｚ／Ｚ还有２０１０冬奥！那么这次就应该放开点！</P>
不是俺说丧气话，这个抽签如同当头浇了一桶冰水，越想越不乐观。
<P>我觉得会出现05年世锦赛时的情况!</P>
<P>T/M短节目后排第一,S/S最后一个出场像世锦赛时的PV/TV一样以微弱优势排第二!S/Z我觉得短节目应该比PV/TV好,以微弱劣势排第三!</P>
Ｓ／Ｓ还挺有压力的，他们技术本来就不稳定，所以Ｓ／Ｓ失误的可能性叫俄罗斯两队几率要高些！
<P>希望中国的三对不要在单人转上再出现不同步,这很容易被忽略呵! 还有基本没有失误过的搌转也要注意。</P>
<P>排名只能裁判左右了，我们只能愣着。</P>
<P>我觉得自由滑在对手前出场压力会小些，如果自己发挥得很完美的话会给对手留下不小的压力呢！</P>
<P>这个签抽的~~~</P>
<P>不过好歹还是要看自己发挥，不出差错，进最后一组，lp再抽个好签，希望还是有滴~~~</P>
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<P>lp较早出场可能压力是小些（不过也小不到哪里去...）不过滑完了等在那里总有点看人家眼色的感觉~~~</P>
我觉得LP出现在最后一组可能性最大的是TT/MM，Pv/Tv,S/S,Z/Z;S/Z和P/T，O/S，I/B可能会在倒数第二组出现！我感觉以现在的趋势，S/Z想要赢过Z/Z，可能性不是很大！