[讨论]TTMM恢复现役的可能性 - Powered by Discuz! Archiver

青鸟jerry 发表于 2006-12-19 22:57:00

<P>偶还是保持观望态度,感觉最后复出的可能性不大~</P>
<P>其实怎样都好,即使复出我也不会看他们的节目的;</P>
<P>说"视觉污染"可能有点严重,但T巫婆相由心生的狰狞面目实在不想让人再看哪怕一次!!</P>

wenwenyin 发表于 2006-12-19 23:03:00

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<DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff>Originally Posted by <STRONG>discoduck</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV italic"><FONT color=#cc00ff>Regardless of what you think, S & Z have improved a great deal over the years and I love to watch them on the ice, especially the connection they have with one another.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff>Now THAT I agree with! They have improved tremendously over the years. They actually are a pair as opposed to two single skaters sharing the ice. Shen actually looks at her partner and looks like she wants to be on the ice with him. <IMG src="http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/images/smilies/eek1.gif" border=0> <BR><BR>But I also have to agree, that the Chinese pairs do not embody what I love about pair skating. They don't really pay attention to detail with hands, fingers, posture, etc. They (P/T & Z/Z) also, don't seem to relate to one another on the ice and enjoy the music, skating or their partners. JMO.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Originally Posted by <STRONG>loopey</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV italic">Now THAT I agree with! They have improved tremendously over the years. They actually are a pair as opposed to two single skaters sharing the ice. Shen actually looks at her partner and looks like she wants to be on the ice with him. <IMG src="http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/images/smilies/eek1.gif" border=0> <BR><BR>But I also have to agree, that the Chinese pairs do not embody what I love about pair skating. They don't really pay attention to detail with hands, fingers, posture, etc. They (P/T & Z/Z) also, don't seem to relate to one another on the ice and enjoy the music, skating or their partners. JMO.</DIV></TD></TR></TABLE></DIV><BR>I agree that S/Z are a cut above the other Chinese pairs. I enjoy Zhang Squared but I don't feel the connection between them as I do when watching S/Z. Zhangs have incredible technical ability but very little emotion. P/T have always left me cold.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Originally Posted by <STRONG>loopey</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV italic"><FONT color=#0000ff>But I also have to agree, that the Chinese pairs do not embody what I love about pair skating. They don't really pay attention to detail with hands, fingers, posture, etc. They (P/T & Z/Z) also, don't seem to relate to one another on the ice and enjoy the music, skating or their partners. JMO.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT color=#0000ff>Shen and Zhao pay a lot of attention to their hands and fingers--for example, there is that lovely part in Turandot where he is tracing her face with his hands.<BR><BR>I think P/T do relate to one another on the ice and are the most musical or lyrical of the three pairs. Their problem has been consistency in the jumps these past few seasons. Dan Zhang does really lack expression but she is young yet and there is plenty of time for her to improve</FONT></DIV>
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civi 发表于 2006-12-20 00:02:00

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<P>TM和他们的教练都讨论关于经济压力的问题，美国这边的论坛上也有很多人认为他们选手今年GPF的不佳表现也是因为他们一直参加巡回演出表演。看来，我们的举国制虽然存在弊病，但起码国家队的运动员不用太担心这方面的压力。花样滑冰还是很昂贵的运动，教练，编舞，服装，若受伤就更麻烦了。听说当年SZ图兰朵的服装花了两万多美金.</P></FONT>

plantclean 发表于 2006-12-20 00:09:00

我觉得最理想莫过于TM复出，今年世界锦标输给了SZ，然后SZ退了，她们坚持到下次冬奥，再输给ZZ就太完美拉！！那么我就太支持TM复出啊

冰嫣发表于 2006-12-20 04:04:00

楼上的筒子不厚道，哈哈，不过我和你一样不厚道！

dudu1984712 发表于 2006-12-20 07:30:00

<P>我还是很欣赏TM的，虽然在这里说他们优雅总被人嘲笑，但我还是坚持认为他们非常优雅，不同于GG哲学化的优雅和BS自然而然的优雅，他们的优雅，是经过精心雕琢的优雅，就像工笔画，虽然我一向不太喜欢工笔画，但不得不承认工笔画也是艺术，也很美</P>
<P>但是，他们伤我心伤得太重了，我之所以还能对他们保持起码的敬重，是因为我敬重他们都灵的两套节目，尤其是短节目，我称那套节目为艺术品，但是，如果他们真的回来，我不免会恨他们，因为人总有忍无可忍的时候。其实，他们叫嚣着要回来，还不是看着ZZ接不上班，要是ZZ现在艺术表现力迅猛提高，他们还敢说回来吗？他们已经占了我们一次便宜了，决不允许他们再占第二次。而且，我真的不希望SZ退役，他们的职业生涯，配得上一块冬奥会金牌，可是，即使不退役，他们又能保持状态到几时呢？</P>
<P>不说了，谢谢那位转文的朋友，三鞠躬</P>

dudu1984712 发表于 2006-12-19 21:58:00

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>wenwenyin</I>在2006-12-18 23:58:59的发言：</B><BR>
<P>FSU上面有他们要复出那帖子可真火啊~而且又拿他们和S/Z比较起来了.</P><BR></DIV>
<P>能转些过来看看吗？那个网站现在注册不了了</P>

wenwenyin 发表于 2006-12-19 22:25:00

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>dudu1984712</I>在2006-12-19 21:58:56的发言：</B><br><br>
<P>能转些过来看看吗？那个网站现在注册不了了</P></DIV>
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<P>转哪些呢?那个帖子6页有4页都拿他们和S/Z或者中国双人在比~~晕哦~~</P>
<P>不过我才发现T/M还有好多FANS呢, </P>
<P>转最后两页说的比较多的吧.<br></P>

brien 发表于 2006-12-20 13:23:00

他们复出偶们也不怕

bettyshang 发表于 2006-12-20 20:08:00

<P><FONT color=#5d72c4><STRONG>我觉得他们应该是不愿意复役的,现在中国的三对双人实力都很强,尤其是申赵,他们已经得到了奥运会金牌,转入职业赛场应该是功成身退,是最保险的做法.复出不太合乎常理,或许只是俄罗斯冰协看到现在青黄不接的一相情愿.<IMG src="http://www.chinaice.org/2635/Skins/spring/emot/em76.gif"></STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#5d72c4><STRONG> 不过说实话,T虽然人品差,但他们的确有一定程度的优雅,暴风雪也的确是很经典的节目.他们虽然在很多方面都不如申赵,但我觉得不应该全面否定他们的一切.<IMG src="http://www.chinaice.org/2635/Skins/spring/emot/em25.gif"></STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#5d72c4><STRONG> 就算他们复出,也不是申赵的对手</STRONG></FONT>.<IMG src="http://www.chinaice.org/2635/Skins/spring/emot/em52.gif"></P>

bettyshang 发表于 2006-12-20 20:11:00

dudu1984712 发表于 2006-12-20 21:10:00

<P>可是现在ZZ接不上班啊，只要申赵退了，TM他们回来，不需要承担太重的压力，只要保持技术水平就可以了，反正他们还年轻，还可以再来一届冬奥会，到时候塑造一个“宇宙全人”，远超SZ，睥睨BS，直逼GG不是更好？</P><br>而且，他们可能复出不是俄罗斯冰协说的，是瓦希利耶夫说的

sample_yao 发表于 2006-12-20 21:27:00

我同样觉得如果他们真的要复出了，那么现在也只是造势的阶段，不可能明年世锦赛之前就出来的。。他们还别不服，以现在的情况，他们出来一定是会输给SZ的。我也承认以ZZ和PT现在的水平赢TM很难，他们或者觉得再拿一次worlds对他们很有意义吧，不过那一定是下个赛季的事情了。

俯视地狱 发表于 2006-12-20 21:33:00

还是让他们复出好了，复出节目就滑白雪公主，T绝对是扮演邪恶的王后的不二人选

kdtmhsl02 发表于 2006-12-20 21:49:00

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>留住最后的舞</I>在2006-12-19 8:23:44的发言：</B><BR>
<P>随便他们吧，如果真出来了倒要看看俄冰邪有什么动作。不过说真的，他们那真是“艺术表现力”吗？尤其是巫婆那扭曲抽筋痛苦不堪的表情，是理解音乐的那种吗？而且，巫婆每年都要出点事，撞了头是意外，胆囊炎是个意外的意外，再回来还要坏哪？</P>
<P>反正我不怕他们出来！但还是希望他们不要出现在眼前……</P></DIV>
<p>不是毁容,起码也是面瘫,要不然怎么对得起巫婆称号!!

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