xueyinghu2002 发表于 2007-5-22 19:41:24

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Tatiana Totmianina and her skating partner Maxim Marinin began skating together in 1997. Both began their careers as singles skaters, and they were always noted for their superb single elements. Coached by 1984 Olympic Pairs Champion Oleg Vasiliev, Totmianina and Marinin made consistent progress on the world scene through the late 90's. They won their first major title at the 2002 European Championships, and went on to finish 4th at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.
Despite their success and obvious technical ability, Totmianina and Marinin were often criticized for lacking a specific identity or style in their skating. As a result, they were overshadowed throughout much of their career by more elegant and crowd-appealing pairs, particularly Yelena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze, as well as Chinese icons Shen Xue and Zhao Hongbo. Twice in a row they finished second at the World Championships to their Chinese rivals, then finally won gold over Shen and Zhao in 2004.
Ironically, Totmianina and Marinin garnered the most attention and won the most fans due to an incident that nearly ended their career. In November 2004, during the free skate of Skate America in Pittsburgh, Marinin lost his balance while attempting a difficult lasso lift and Tatiana slammed to the ice head first. She suffered a severe concussion and spent the night in a local hospital. Totmianina recovered from her injuries rapidly and was able to return to the ice within days. She often stated that she has no memory of the incident and this made it easy for her to return to the ice. Marinin, however, had to start seeing a sport psychologist to overcome his fears. Both admitted that Marinin's fears were so great that it was nearly impossible for them to continue skating.
Four months later, they returned to the World Championships, held in Moscow, Russia. They won the short program, posting the highest total score ever under the new scoring system. They then conquered their fears and skated the same free program flawlessly, with the same dreaded lift. Their total score was well over 200 points, and they won their second consecutive World title easily.
Totmianina and Marinin dominated World competition from that point onward. They won their fifth consecutive European Championship in 2006. With their rivals Shen and Zhao recovering from a debilitating injury, Totmianina and Marinin were the clear favorites for Olympic gold in Turin, Italy. They won the gold and retired from the amateur ranks soon after.
Totmianina and Marinin are currently on tour with the Champions on Ice show, with other notable skaters Michelle Kwan, Evgeny Plushenko, and Viktor Petrenko, among others
说正是04那次意外 给他们赢得大量冰眯

xueyinghu2002 发表于 2007-5-22 19:44:22

Despite their success and obvious technical ability, Totmianina and Marinin were often criticized for lacking a specific identity or style in their skating. As a result, they were overshadowed throughout much of their career by more elegant and crowd-appealing pairs, particularly Yelena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze, as well as Chinese icons Shen Xue and Zhao Hongbo
尽管他们技术很规范 但节目总是缺少特点 这也使他们逊色于b/s和s/z
看来维基挺客观的

采桑子_xavier 发表于 2007-5-22 20:23:47

In November 2004, during the free skate of Skate America in Pittsburgh, Marinin lost his balance while attempting a difficult lasso lift and Tatiana slammed to the ice head first.

非常不HD地想看到这段视频很久了我一直都很邪恶~~~

franzlfan 发表于 2007-5-22 20:43:27

这个YouTube上有的~
还有就是美国NBC台奥运会的那个特别节目Olympic Ice 2006里面也有放吧~

clament 发表于 2007-5-22 21:15:23

a difficult lasso lift
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他们那个托举哪里算是难的,就是一个粉基本的托举吗。本来TT/MM的托举就粉一般,那次事故后更是SO SO了

frenchrabbit 发表于 2007-5-22 21:31:42

a difficult lasso lift,这个说的没有什么错,这种类型的托举重心不好控制,女伴特别容易摔下来,所以这个描述没什么问题。

loooop 发表于 2007-5-22 21:59:30

唉,现在凡事都喜欢问“如果……”

如果老赵04WORLDS没有那一摔,如果老赵没去棒子国参加粉不吉利的05COC而是选择好好养伤,如果老赵05年夏天没摔断跟腱……

顺风 发表于 2007-5-22 22:43:52

如果佟健能在都灵做出2A-2T的话

。。。。。。。

dudu1984712 发表于 2007-5-22 22:54:25

事实没有如果
很残酷,很真实~~~~

采桑子_xavier 发表于 2007-5-22 22:56:39

如果我从小就练习花滑的话.........

R_P_S_M 发表于 2007-5-22 23:01:18

"Ironically..."

写这篇的人从语气来看似乎对他们并不感冒···

冬奥夺冠也特地强调是在s/z伤势未完全恢复的情况下,然后又"soon after"的退役了···

离恨恰如春草 发表于 2007-5-23 00:54:04

Maybe写这篇的是个华人?!

frenchrabbit 发表于 2007-5-23 01:27:25

华人到不一定,但是肯定是不喜欢TM的,所以会非常客观的指出TM的缺点,如果是喜欢TM的,就会非常客观的指出TM的成绩和优点。
其实都是客观的,呵呵

bhman 发表于 2007-5-23 04:33:54

,如果老赵没去棒子国参加粉不吉利的05COC而是选择好好养伤,

有谁能给我补习一下花滑历史,为什么老赵要求棒子国参加05COC。 COC 不是都在中国举办的吗??


至于那个 Wikipedia,人人都可以改。如果你们有兴趣,找出一下 TT&MM 违背奥运精神的材料来(指责Z&Z,无端怀疑S&Z装病etc),我有时间的话,可以考虑翻成英文,加上去。

tranejoan 发表于 2007-5-23 06:10:57

嘿嘿,随便找个人来给wiki expand一下,把T的真面目展现在别人面前~! (我和我朋友就试过恶作剧地把另一个同学的党案给发上去,可惜在一星期内就被他们发现只是普通人而删了... )
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