做平凡的人 发表于 2007-11-8 23:59:33

原帖由 我爱花滑 于 2007-11-8 23:55 发表 http://bbs1.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
中国的三位姑娘啊,明天谁暴走一回,让大家也有个惊喜。

我猜是那个姓王的小MM,因为第一次,通常比较放得开~
希望小许发挥正常

DSC 发表于 2007-11-8 23:59:56

忘了补充问一句:村主的技术分怎么会是全场最低啊 难道真是老了?想当年她可也是两届世锦赛铜牌,最风光的时候还曾经击败Sasha而获得GPF冠军,至少06年冬奥时也差些就登上颁奖台,可现在......

庞佟看起来状况好多了,要更加油啊 争取自由滑clean一把,动作定级再高些。

kdtmhsl02 发表于 2007-11-9 00:01:12

听大家说,YUNA还没成为世界冠军呢,棒子现场就那么嚣张,要是拿个奥运冠军现场怕是听不见音乐了,就听见腌泡菜的声音!

圆圆好样地!!!

robbiesun 发表于 2007-11-9 00:01:27

zhang/wang的PSC怎么还没JGP英国站高呢?

fjn219 发表于 2007-11-9 00:07:13

原帖由 DSC 于 2007-11-8 23:59 发表 http://bbs1.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
忘了补充问一句:村主的技术分怎么会是全场最低啊 难道真是老了?想当年她可也是两届世锦赛铜牌,最风光的时候还曾经击败Sasha而获得GPF冠军,至少06年冬奥时也差些就登上颁奖台,可现在......


3lutz落冰不稳,后面的2T没做
3FLIP双足落冰

plantclean 发表于 2007-11-9 00:16:14

如果只是没有接2T加上3F双足应该还没有那么惨烈,会不会被降了?目前COC女单有没有人被降?
村主啊,才一年........

丽丽熊 发表于 2007-11-9 00:27:26

芬兰的poykio的可能有被降了,tes很低

爱吃月饼的猫 发表于 2007-11-9 00:30:04

The Cup of China in Harbin kicked off Thursday with the Compulsory Dance, the Pairs and Ladies Short Programs. Harbin hosts the Cup of China for the first time. The Cup of China is the second of six events in the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating series. The skaters compete for a a global prize money of US $ 180, 000 per individual event of the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating and receive points according to their placements. The top six skaters/couples then qualify for the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final in Torino, Italy (December 13-16).

Ice Dancing, Compulsory Dance
The Compulsory Dance at the Cup of China is the Argentine Tango. “The Argentine Tango is a sinuous dance and should be skated with strong edges and considerable élan. Good flow and fast travel over the ice are essential and must be achieved without obvious effort or pushing. The many varied step sequences in this dance are complementary to the dramatic and romantic character of the music. Dancers must at all times be aware of the rhythmic timing and reflect this in the execution of steps and in expressive interpretation of the music. Prolonged free leg extension, upright, graceful carriage and good unison are needed for this dance. Where appropriate, rotations must be fast but controlled. The partners should make maximum use of the interpretive elements of the dance, including the short steps, quick turns and serpentine movements."
The Argentine Tango was created by Reginald J. Wilkie and Daphne B. Wallis. It was first performed in London in 1934.

Russia’s Oksana Domnina/Maxim Shabalin took the lead ahead of Tanith Belbin/Benjamin Agosto (USA) and Federica Faiella/Massimo Scali of Italy.
Domnina/Shabalin put out a characteristic and strong performance of the Argentine Tango to earn 38.77 points (19.88 element score/18.59 program component score), just short of their personal best of 38.99 points. “We just think that we have to give even more and have to be better tomorrow. Today was the easiest part”, Domnina commented. She had to overcome a fall in the warm up. “I can’t say what happened there, maybe we came too close, or maybe it was just bad luck. Maybe I was one percent scared after that. I tried to forget about it”, the ice dancer explained.
Belbin/Agosto skated also skated very well but seemed to lack attack a little bit. The reigning World bronze medalists picked up 35.89 points (17.72/18.17). “I felt we skated really well. It felt good. This is a good dance for us. We’ve been working hard on it all summer and it really feels like it has come a long way. We’re looking forward to the OD. I don’t like to have to make up ground after the compulsory, but it’s a situation we’ve found ourselves in before”, Agosto said.
Faiella/Scali delivered a passionate Argentine Tango and were awarded 33.54 points (17.08/16.46), setting a new seasonal best for themselves. “We skated pretty well and were happy because we did our personal best I the compulsory dance. It is a new dance for us, we never skated it together before (in competition)”, Scali revealed. “We are really pleased with our marks, too. They were much better than at Skate America."

Alexandra Zaretski/Roman Zaretski (ISR) came in fourth at 30.81 points, directly followed by Sinead Kerr/John Kerr (GBR) with 29.52 points.

Pairs, Short Program
To the delight of the home crowd in the International Conference Exhibition and Sports Center, Qing Pang/Jian Tong of China won the Pairs Short Program. Keauna McLaughlin/Rockne Brubaker (USA) and Canadians Jessica Miller/Ian Moram followed in second and third.

As the top ranked couple, Pang/Tong skated last. The 2006 World Champions landed a side by side triple toeloop, a big triple twist and a throw triple loop in their routine set to “O Doux Printemps D’Autrefois” by Jules Massenet. Pang/Tong received 65.48 points (37.08 element score/28.40 program component score), which is a seasonal best for them. “We got good scores and we are quite pleased with our performance tonight. It was better than in our previous competition (Skate America)”, Pang told the press. “We felt some pressure, because a lot of our friends had come to watch.” The couple is originally from Harbin, but now lives and trains in Beijing.
Performing to “Moonlight Sonata”, McLaughlin/Brubaker produced a high triple twist, a difficult one-armed Axel Lasso lift and a throw triple Salchow, but McLaughlin underrotated the side by side triple Salchow and fell on it. The World Junior Champions received 59.22 points (34.62/25.60). “I thought it was a pretty good performance. Yes, I fell on my Salchow, but overall it was pretty good”, McLaughlin told the post-event press conference. “It was really good for the first time out on the senior Grand Prix”, her partner added. “We both had mistakes. It is a learning experience, and it’s an honor to be here.”
Miller/Moram’s program to “Wayfering Pilgrim” by Roy Buchanan contained solid side by side double Axels, a one-armed Axel lasso lift (level four) as well as throw triple loop. They just were a little slow in their pair combination spin and wobbled in the side by side combination spin. The Canadians scored 50.46 points (30.34/20.12), significantly surpassing their previous personal best of 44.58 points. “We’re just very happy on the way we skated, and being third right now is definitely just a bonus. We’re just enjoying it”, Moram said. “I think we just had a lot of fun out there. The crowd was amazing. When we did the first lift on the warm up, the crowd started yelling, and that was the moment I knew that we’re going to skate good”, Miller commented.

Yue Zhang/Lei Wang (CHN) are less than two points away from the podium with 48.32 points. They landed a throw triple toeloop and double twist, but he touched down with his hand on the double Axel.
Marie Vartmann/Florian Just (GER) withdrew due to illness before the Short Program. Vartmann is suffering from a stomach flu.

Ladies, Short Program
European Champion Carolina Kostner of Italy grabbed the Ladies’ Short Program ahead of Caroline Zhang (USA) and Yu-Na Kim (KOR).
Kostner’s routine to “Riders on the Storm” by The Doors included a triple flip-triple toe combination, a double Axel and a level-four flying sit spin. She was off balance on her triple Lutz, but held on to it(果然3Lz又出问题了 ). The 20-year-old Italian was awarded 60.82 points (34.10 element score/26.72 program component score). “I am very pleased with my short program today. I was very nervous going into it. I didn’t skate in the Grand Prix since 2005. So his is a small comeback for me”, she explained, referring to the fact that she missed last year’s Grand Prix series due to injury (torn ligaments).
Skating to “Spanish Gypsy”, Zhang hit also triple flip-triple toe combination and a triple Lutz , but the judges deducted from the GOE of the latter because of the wrong edge take-off. The World Junior Champion again impressed with her spins, earning a level four for her trademark layback spin and for the combination spin . The 14-year-old picked up 58.76 points (36.40/23.36), improving her seasonal best from Skate America. “I am also happy with my performance. It could have been better, but I think I held my spins this time, better than at Skate America. My jumps could have been bigger and I really was slow today, but I am pleased with my overall performance”, Zhang told the press.
Kim, who skated last, went for the triple flip-triple toe like Kostner and Zhang, but singled the second jump. She didn’t let herself distract too much by the error und completed a triple Lutz and double Axel in her program set to “Die Fledermaus”. Her layback spin, flying sit spin and combination spin were all graded a level three by the Technical Panel. Kim scored 58.32 points (30.40/27.92). “It’s my first competition of the season and I made a small mistake on a jump. I was nervous after that. Now I have one day to prepare for the free skating. I just want to forget about the mistake and want to give my best”, Kim said.

Defending Cup of China Champion Julia Sebestyen (HUN) is sitting in fourth with 55.46 points. She nailed a triple flip and double Axel and showed strong spins, but her triple Lutz (in combination with double toe) was underroated and downgraded. Alissa Czisny (USA) stumbled badly on a triple Lutz attempt, but showed strong spins, a double Axel and a triple flip-double to finish fifth (51.08 points). Susanna Pöykiö (FIN) was sixth at 48.48 points. Her program contained a triple flip-double toe and a double Axel, but she doubled her Lutz.

shinezyang 发表于 2007-11-9 00:30:27

看视频了,张/王的确不错,这么小的年龄,很有发展潜力。
特别是他们的抛跳,高度还不错,小姑娘落冰也不错,有小雪的味道。

shinezyang 发表于 2007-11-9 00:40:31

圆圆好棒,喜欢她的燕式步、2A,尤其喜欢那个躬身提刀转!那叫一个快!
3Lutz要加油哦

frenchrabbit 发表于 2007-11-9 01:03:31

刚刚看到了PT的节目,说两句。
首先非常可喜的是,看到了他俩的状态非常好,也可能是回到了比较熟悉的场地的缘故,哈尔滨的冰场比较大,给了他们充足的空间,和美国站的时候相比,滑行速度和对音乐的控制都好了不少。所以第二遍分是能够打起来的,其实还可以再高一些。
第二,对动作做了一些改动。
1、单人转改的非常好,非常恰当的解决了难度和质量之间的关系,去掉了反蹲转的变刃,强化了反直立转和蹲转的两个难度姿态,这个单人转应该是满足3级的条件,而且质量也还是可以的。
2、托举,上法做了一些改动,T直接用外刃大一字的弧线起跳,这样这个上法的难度因素就应该一定要承认了。
2、为了给双人转足够的时间,螺旋线减了一圈,这个从我个人的角度来说,没有太大的必要,螺旋线还是应该尽量做到4级。因为美国站的时候,PT的速度起不来,所以后面肯定要耽误一些时间,这次的比赛他俩的状态还是不错的,速度起的也比较好,所以没有必要降这个难度。
3、双人转,也做了一些改动,去掉了反燕式的基本姿态,在后面加了直立转的姿态,但是圈数不够。去掉了男伴蹲转的难度姿态,加入了男女伴最开始的反蹲转的难度姿态,但是男伴的姿态不够到位。其实两种做法都无所谓,主要是选手要做起来比较轻松就可以了,从难度的角度来说,之前的做法如果圈数够了,会更容易拿到高级别。

付上我的分数单:
1、3T             4      0      4
2、3LzTw1   5      2      6.4
3、3Loth      5      2      6.4
4、FCcosp3    3      0       3
5、Cist3         3.1    0      3.1
6、5Ali4         6.5   1      7.5
7、Bids3         3.2    1      3.9
8、PCosp2      3.5       0   3.5

7.757.257.57.57.5

37.8+30=67.8

详细的分数单也没有出来,从我个人看来,捻转的级别只要技术专家抠,庞清的左腿就是不够级别因素要求的。圆形步,上次美国站技术专家给了1级,我个人觉得这套步法的难度是够的,应该给3级,并且灵活一点的技术专家都会给3级,但是如果严格按照规则的要求,据我看到的,庞清的括弧步似乎只完成了一次,而规则规定多样性步法中所有步法种类必须要完成2次以上,所以如果技术专家就抠你这一点,仍然是可以给你1级。螺旋线从我看视频的角度,圈数和质量基本都可以,双人转问题还是比较多,到底技术专家给成什么级别我也不清楚,如果是我给,就是个2级的双人转。

pooool 发表于 2007-11-9 02:20:44

功课:

CAROCARO CARO CARO CARO CARO

flyingduck 发表于 2007-11-9 02:22:26

从论文中挣扎出来,俨然已经是27楼了。好不容易看完整个贴,四分之一在讨论转播问题,四分之一在吵架。由此可见
1. CCTV5的RP低到极点
2. 河蟹社会的理想还很遥远 (有押韵哦)

我觉得有些人的言论完全没有逻辑性,可以无视。都是为了这项运动付出很多努力的运动员,有他们存在是很幸福的一件事,输也好赢也好。而且谁输谁赢,不到最后谁也不知道,心里祝福就好了。

给PT撒花~ 还有还有,红嘴唇同学和张悦~
念叨Yuna的长节目...小孩子经常lp体力不足的样子...撑住啊这次~

INOUT 发表于 2007-11-9 02:28:57

哪里能看到女单的SP

YOUTUBE上有YUNA的粉丝贴了SP,不过只有YUNA的,没有其他人的

pooool 发表于 2007-11-9 02:33:37

怨念一下KK的CD,我觉得他们速度挺好的.不晓得为什么TES那么低?
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