美国的PS？对这对完全没印象啊~~~我也以为上面那张照片是DW~~~
跟嫩说过DW是PS带大的嘛，呵呵……
特别是男人们的衣服啊，Charlie以前很多比赛服装就是把Swallow的直接改改就穿的，造型简直一模一样……那啥怎么说的，“衣钵相传”？
不过去了Igor他们那边以后就渐渐的不像了，后来头发也改了：） 原帖由 pooool 于 2007-12-17 17:24 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
美国的PS？对这对完全没印象啊~~~我也以为上面那张照片是DW~~~
嫩今天滴眼光咋看走神了捏~~
我放的截图一看就是老掉牙的。。。
嘿嘿，其实昨天发到群里的时候F已经猜到了 原帖由 扶风 于 2007-12-16 21:43 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
呵呵，国外也有这么多知明人士吗。。。
还有一个多月才到欧锦赛，想想都难熬~~
是啊，呵呵～～ Golden Skate上也有人喜欢DS（俄）的FD，不过从发言上看是少数
不过，说起来大家请不要生气，前三名的自由舞中，DS（俄）恐怕是发挥最完整的，虽然我也看不懂他们的加分以及Linking Footwork / Movement, Performance, Choreography等分数……
顺便贴一下isu上的回顾吧http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/content/transnews/0,10869,4844-128610-19728-18886-281078-3572-4771-layout160-129918-news-item,00.html
冰舞自由舞部分
Today’s competition opened with the Free Dance. In what was a close competition, Oksana Domnina/Maxim Shabalin of Russia came out on top to win their first gold medal in the Grand Prix Final. Tanith Belbin/Benjamin Agosto settled for the silver, and Isabelle Delobel/Olivier Schoenfelder earned the bronze, their first medal in this event. The top three couples were separated by only 2.17 points.
Domnina/Shabalin, who stood in third place following the Original Dance, gave an emotional and technically strong performance to “Waltz Masquerade” by Aram Khatchaturian, telling the story of a girl that is forced to marry a rich man that she doesn’t love. The Russian Champions completed well synchronized twizzles, intricate footwork, a straight line lift in a low position, a curve lift and a reverse rotational lift. All their eight elements were graded a level four by the Technical Panel, and the European silver medalists posted a new personal best score of 103.26 points (53.50 element score/49.76 program component score). They racked up a total of 165.57 points to overtake Belbin/Agosto and Delobel/ Schoenfelder. “I am very happy that we were able to really do our best technically and emotionally. So we felt really pleased and happy, because if you feel that you did your best it gives you an inner satisfaction. The result is still important, but it is also very important to feel that happiness inside. Yesterday we weren’t as pleased with what we did because we felt ourselves that it wasn’t the best we can do”, Domnina said. “Today wasn’t the most important victory of our career – hopefully that one is still to come – but it was the first competition where all the top couples met and we wanted to position ourselves well”, she continued. The couple also revealed that Shabalin is suffering from an inflammation in his left knee that started to bother him at their last practice at home before coming to Italy. “We weren’t even sure if we can compete”, Domnina said.
Belbin/Agosto’s classical medley of pieces by Frédéric Chopin featured smooth step sequences, and effortless looking yet difficult lifts including a curve-rotational lift with changes of position and a serpentine lift. Seven out of the eight elements were awarded a level four and only the serpentine lift was a level three. The Americans scored 100.50 points (51.50/49.00) and slipped from first to second place at 164.14 points. Belbin/Agosto won a second silver medal in the Final after 2005 in the same ice rink where they took the Olympic silver in 2006. They had not competed in the Final the past two seasons. “We didn’t make any mistakes. We have to ask around what they didn’t like about serpentine lift we got a level three. So many little things to think about, we have to go home and work hard”, Belbin commented. Agosto felt that there was not enough emotion in their performance today.
Delobel/Schoenfelder had chosen music from “The Piano” soundtrack, telling the love story of a deaf woman and a hearing man. The European Champions executed strong footwork, earning a level four for the side by side midline steps and a level three for the circular steps and showed beautiful lifts like a rotational lift and a serpentine lift with changes of position. However, they appeared somewhat slow and hesitant. The French picked up 100.11 points (51.40/48.71), which was a new seasons best for them. They overall accumulated 163.40 points. “We are disappointed. We expected to skate better today. Maybe we didn’t have enough energy, but I still think that this program will be very good, hopefully at the European and World Championships”, Schoenfelder told the post-event press conference. “We didn’t do the best we can do, but we are satisfied, because we focused on the new steps and got high levels”, his partner added.
Tessa Virtue/Scott Moir (CAN) interpreted the romantic “Umbrellas of Cherbourg” and produced a musical and smooth performance. They finished 4th at 159.40 points. Jana Khokhlova/Sergei Novitski excited the crowd with their dynamic routine to “Night on Bald Mountain” and “In the Hall of the Mountain King”. They especially drew applause for their daring lifts. The Russians placed 5th (153.58 points). Nathalie Pechalat/Fabian Bourzat (FRA) presented their theme “Craziness” well, but he went down in the diagonal step sequence. The couple came in 6th (140.82 points).
DelSch男伴对这次自由舞的表现也不大满意，不过他相信这套节目会越来越好～～既然他们都有信心，那么让我们拭目以待
另外，其实做Comparative Montage也没什么的，可以看得更清楚呀，呵呵，去年就有网友做了大奖赛FD比较Montage：
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgBiZ04WkMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DCoKVhoA-8
p.s. 一个月的时间其实可能过得很快的 Del/Sch的分数肯定是还有上升空间的，就看到时他们的发挥和裁判人品不了~~
冬菇实在是没啥节目可看的，除了探戈滑起来还稍微有点味道之外，其他简直
N/K好歹还有套FD可以细看，他们想拿冠军至少也得服下众吧 LS的，我悄悄的说一句啊，这个赛季我还是喜欢冬菇的OD的，还有我还是觉得他们的FD其实编的也不错的，我不服气的主要是TES啊……
还有我在AP的帖子里发了几个我收集的montage，声明一下不是我做的哦，只是觉得做的太好了就整理了post一下，嫩们有空去看看吧？^_^ 冰舞的技术专家起的作用要更大一些，2007的世锦赛，如果不是技术专家公正的定级，俄罗斯DS至少可以登上领奖台，有些时候，毫厘之间的差距，一个3级步法和一个4级步法就出来了，不过这个也是没有办法的事情。
同时，还是那句话，DS并不差。 其实对比FD是没有意义的，CD做对比视频还有点用。而且这么模糊的视频剪缉 小声地说，对我这种技术方面比较小白的还是有用的
我是在上赛季大奖赛之后看到那两个对比的montage，看了以后觉得裁判那样判分还是有道理的（我在那之前压根没注意到姿态控制、移位、touch down等问题……）而且虽然视频都不大清楚（对我倒不是一个大问题，原来收藏的视频大都是Low Quality；不过用高清版的确能看得更清楚），但是将不同选手的相同技术动作放在一起比较，还是能看出设计和完成上的一些差异
我也觉得抛开别的因素DS（俄）的节目编的还是不错的…… 请问假面舞会讲得是个什么情节？KO视频里的解说员是说男主觉得女主背叛他有外遇了，所以杀了她，但是DS视频里解说员说女主身陷包办婚姻，男主就是图她的钱才追求她，那到底是怎样啊？还有S最后狠狠地亲了D一下子那个是什么意思哦？谢谢：） 刚刚看完CCTV5俄冰舞的比赛......法国P/B的FD表演让我想起了禁锢、精神病人的衣服........ 果然又是一对特殊的选手.......好玩............这次好像是乌克兰还是俄罗斯的选手FD用了一套音乐，和保D/S03的时候舞蹈音乐是一样的.......听到的时候就想起了保D/S的音乐...........然后保D/S演绎的片段就浮现在眼前了........... 好挂念啊.........啊啊啊.........
说实在觉得俄D/S这套FD托举一点都不新鲜......难度也不算最高的........而且他们的演绎如一般的大气而且粗糙........虽然技术动作都规范.......不过总觉得他们就是用恢宏大气什么的去掩饰里面的细节瑕疵.......跳了半天，真的没感觉他们的情绪起伏......东尼娜从头到尾一如既往的笑得灿烂的洋娃娃，沙巴林也是一直不变的强悍野兽代表.......细节呢？情绪变化呢？？？细节给我细节！！！ 节目、衣服、动作编排都走稳妥、传统路线，最讨厌这样了，就好像想着：这样就最好了，绝对不出错！不肯冒险，不愿创新尝试......觉得如果这样的一种方法就是一种倒退了...........我甚至觉得这个赛季K/N的FD比他们的演绎更加精彩。看起来的时候周围似乎随着身体姿态的变化、表情还有音乐，出现了一种氛围，看到一个故事......
不过呢.........这个赛季的OD真的是赏心悦目啊.........漂漂的民族服装啊.........看得星星眼一大堆........... 原帖由 牛奶河小猫 于 2007-12-21 04:39 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
刚刚看完CCTV5俄冰舞的比赛......法国P/B的FD表演让我想起了禁锢、精神病人的衣服........ 果然又是一对特殊的选手.......好玩............这次好像是乌克兰还是俄罗斯的选手FD用了一套音乐，和保D/S03的时候舞蹈音乐是一样的.......听到的时候就想起了保D/S的音乐...........然后保D/S演绎的片段就浮现在眼前了........... 好挂念啊.........啊啊啊.........
呵呵，穿得像****那是因为PB的FD主题本来就是发疯啊：）
那个和Den/Sta以前的音乐一样的是俄罗斯选手Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER，这个赛季选那个Prayer in the Night（萨拉班德）的还有Reeds姐弟，实际上R/S他们上个赛季还是俄罗斯国内第三呢，现在几乎没落了。
原帖由 牛奶河小猫 于 2007-12-21 04:39 发表 images/common/back.gif
说实在觉得俄D/S这套FD托举一点都不新鲜......难度也不算最高的........而且他们的演绎如一般的大气而且粗糙........虽然技术动作都规范.......不过总觉得他们就是用恢宏大气什么的去掩饰里面的细节瑕疵.......跳了半天，真的没感觉他们的情绪起伏......东尼娜从头到尾一如既往的笑得灿烂的洋娃娃，沙巴林也是一直不变的强悍野兽代表.......细节呢？情绪变化呢？？？细节给我细节！！！ 节目、衣服、动作编排都走稳妥、传统路线，最讨厌这样了，就好像想着：这样就最好了，绝对不出错！不肯冒险，不愿创新尝试......觉得如果这样的一种方法就是一种倒退了...........我甚至觉得这个赛季K/N的FD比他们的演绎更加精彩。看起来的时候周围似乎随着身体姿态的变化、表情还有音乐，出现了一种氛围，看到一个故事......
呵呵，表情还好吧，笑得灿烂的那是贝美人哦，Domnina倒是没那么开心，就是比较呆板了，也没很多笑容。情节他们一直都有说啊，禁锢的婚姻，其实后半段有一个舞蹈动作看得很明显地吧，只是其他的表现得不够充分。至于K/N的FD，当然和冬菇这个不是一个档次的啦，那个是Masterpiece，冬菇这个是勉强好于CW，呵呵，这就是区别：）
OMG，冬菇组要弃权鸟！！
Shabalin同学的旧伤复发，于是……又要做手术了，于是……Dom/Sha要放弃俄罗斯全锦赛和欧锦赛了……于是，苦命的K/N终于要当全国冠军了；于是，苦命的Del/Sch终于要卫冕欧洲冠军了；
这年头的男伴们好容易受伤……bless……这都几对了吧：从年初上个赛季的BA，到夏天的DW，然后现在的PB，DomSha……容易受伤的男人们…… 还是要保重啊，希望看到大家都健康状态下的公平竞争…… 原帖由 franzsfan 于 2007-12-21 16:17 发表 http://bbs1.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
于是，苦命的K/N终于要当全国冠军了；于是，苦命的Del/Sch终于要卫冕欧洲冠军了
撒花庆祝啊
容易受伤的男人~~不要不要不要骤来骤去~~请珍惜我的心