<P>请斑竹删除我上面的发言，我不知道怎么引用再发言，老是发不上去。</P>
<P>周二北京2008的奥运故事里讲花滑，第一期是女单，其中有选手训练的情况，都是用钢丝吊着做跳跃动作的。</P></DIV>
<P>谢谢
<P>我还想知道选手如果在比赛时把动作难度加大了，跟表上不一样，也要扣分吗？</P>
Element Recognition
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>admin</I>在2003-4-29 13:37:30的发言：</B>埃得里奇的Triple loop
http://www.icechampions.com/glossary/cm3loop.gif
普鲁申科的Triple flip
http://www.icechampions.com/glossary/ccm3flip.gif
Sandhu的Triple Salchow
http://www.icechampions.com/glossary/cm3salchow.gif
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<P>Great clips admin! But Sandu is left-footed (landing foot) and Puloshenko is right-footed(landing foot)as most other skaters are.So it is not very representitive to put them together if we try to tell the difference between flip and salchow.To put it brief, flip has toe pick and salchow doesn't, but they both use backward inside edge to jump.
<P>There is a very good website that show different elements of figure skating, for both single and pairs.There are also vedios accompany the explanations, we can even get slow motions for some element.The skater shown in the vedios are not famous, and they usually do singles or doubles for jumps. But the techniques are clean.we can alsolearn about edges, spins and grace movements such as spirals. Here is the link:
<P><a href="http://www.sk8stuff.com/m_recognize.htm" target="_blank" >http://www.sk8stuff.com/m_recognize.htm</A>
<P>Hope this site can help fans to know figure skating better.
<P>BTW, here is my "cheat sheet" for recognizing jumps (takeconter-clockwise skater, or right-footed (landing foot) as I call it,as example.
<P>First of all, outside edge and inside edge: for outside edge, there is only the thin air between the skater and the ice, while for inside edge, you get the other leg in between. in other word, the insideedges are between the two legs, the outside edges are between one leg and the ice.
<P>Forward and backward means the direction the skater skate.
<P>Now the jumps:
<P>axel: the easiest one to recognize: the only one that use forward edge(outside).
<P>lutz: the second easiest to recognize: the only backward edge jump that the skater leaning to the left.The long (or not so long if conected with steps) backward gliding is another sign.
<P>flip: backward inside edge with toe-pick. ---often with steps go into the jump now days. When without conected steps, usually with a long left foot forward glide followed by 3-turn and toe-pick
<P>salchow: backward inside edge WITHOUT toe-pick. tow-tick or not is the key for separate flip and salchow.
<P>loop and toe-loop are the only jumps that use the same foot to jump and land, in this case (conter-clockwise skater), the right foot.
<P>both use backward right foot outside edge to jump and land.loop without toe-pick, toe-loop as the name indicated, with toe-pick.
<P>Two more points:
<P>1. All jumps are landed on the right footbackward outside edge.
<P>2. As loop and toe-loop are the only jumps that start (jump) from right foot outside edge, they are the only jumps that can be done as a second or third jumps injump combinations.
<P>Difficulty- wise, xxx-loop is more difficult than xxx-toe-loop combination as there is no toe assistance in loop. The first jump needs to carry lots of speed to make the conected loop possible. </P>
<P> 这是我以前向一位网友解释的,现在贴过来吧!</P><P>花样滑冰里目前常用的跳跃由难到易有Axel.Lutz,Flip,Loop,Salchow,Toeloop</P><P>现在选手们已经基本不用沃里跳了在这里我把这几种跳<b>直观(</b>我其实就是这样看会的)地说一下! 以右僻选手为例!
Lutz和Flip在起跳时大多都是右脚向后勾,点冰.Lutz伸的更向后一些.虽然菲利普跳是萨沃夫加点冰,但这个动作做三周时已经和Lutz差不多了!
loop很好辨认!选手两腿相绞,然后起跳.看着挺费劲的,不过Loop也确实比较难.Salhcow起跳时选手右脚会向前扫一下,在空中看起来右腿向里拐. </P><P>Axel.起跳时选手身体向前.一般起跳前选手先用右脚滑行,身体重心向右偏,快要起跳时重心再移到左脚上,同时右脚会向前上方抬,带动身体起跳.这是最难的一种!</P><P>Toeloop,最简单,却最不好说!目前常用的起跳方式有两种.一种是在起跳前以右脚为轴,身体向左后轻微转,同时<FONT color=#ff1141><b>左脚点冰</b></FONT><FONT color=#000000>.</FONT></P><P>还有一种快要起跳的姿势是看着像Flip,但就在要起跳时支撑脚换成右脚(Flip起跳时支撑脚是左脚),左脚后点冰.这是最简单的,一般双人滑选手做的三周跳是Toeloop(或者是Salchow,但比较少.尤其是短节目中,好像这个赛季目前只有张丹张昊做Salchow.俄罗斯选手可能是为了求稳吧,做的是Toeloop),建议多看双人滑!嘻~
就先说道这里吧! </P> <P><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#777777>谢谢hongligl的解说~发现对照着看视频真的是一种很好的方法~光凭文字描述和阅读,大概是比较难了一点.不过hongligl的解说,我自己觉得很清楚~再次感谢！</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#777777>另外就是一些选手都有各自拿手的跳跃~不知道这方面能不能解说一下呢?</FONT></STRONG></P> <DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>网网狗</I>在2006-1-16 18:20:39的发言：</B><BR>
<P> 这是我以前向一位网友解释的,现在贴过来吧!</P>
<P>花样滑冰里目前常用的跳跃由难到易有Axel.Lutz,Flip,Loop,Salchow,Toeloop</P>
<P>现在选手们已经基本不用沃里跳了在这里我把这几种跳<B>直观(</B>我其实就是这样看会的)地说一下! 以右僻选手为例!<BR>Lutz和Flip在起跳时大多都是右脚向后勾,点冰.Lutz伸的更向后一些.虽然菲利普跳是萨沃夫加点冰,但这个动作做三周时已经和Lutz差不多了! <BR>loop很好辨认!选手两腿相绞,然后起跳.看着挺费劲的,不过Loop也确实比较难.Salhcow起跳时选手右脚会向前扫一下,在空中看起来右腿向里拐. </P>
<P>Axel.起跳时选手身体向前.一般起跳前选手先用右脚滑行,身体重心向右偏,快要起跳时重心再移到左脚上,同时右脚会向前上方抬,带动身体起跳.这是最难的一种!</P>
<P>Toeloop,最简单,却最不好说!目前常用的起跳方式有两种.一种是在起跳前以右脚为轴,身体向左后轻微转,同时<FONT color=#ff1141><B>左脚点冰</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000>.</FONT></P>
<P>还有一种快要起跳的姿势是看着像Flip,但就在要起跳时支撑脚换成右脚(Flip起跳时支撑脚是左脚),左脚后点冰.这是最简单的,一般双人滑选手做的三周跳是Toeloop(或者是Salchow,但比较少.尤其是短节目中,好像这个赛季目前只有张丹张昊做Salchow.俄罗斯选手可能是为了求稳吧,做的是Toeloop),建议多看双人滑!嘻~<BR>就先说道这里吧! </P></DIV>
<p>讲得比较形象,但不如前边的专业. 没有把内外刃的差别说清楚,估计用这个方法看比较困难.