<P>T/M今年的头型比从前好看了，t 梳长头发更女人一些。看来除了S/Z ，没有人能对他们产生威胁了，裁判心目中的位置在那了，没办法的事。</P><P>小MAO太棒了，祈祷这次比赛小MAO最终夺冠。</P>
想问法国站目前冰舞领先的乌克兰选手，是复出的老将吗？
<P>G/G一直在参加比赛啊~不过他们的确算是老将了~~</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>yueguang</I>在2005-11-19 18:59:58的发言：</B>
<P>G/G一直在参加比赛啊~不过他们的确算是老将了~~</P></DIV>
哈哈，我把他们当成立陶宛复出的老将了。他们能不能参加奥运会啊？？？
<P>心潮澎湃,看到俄罗斯的二号冰舞选手奥克莎娜和马克希姆了吗?</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>Yvonne</I>在2005-11-19 14:47:31的发言：</B>
<P>Kimmie Meissner 和Mao Asada是不是同年龄啊？</P>
<P>感觉美国对meissner寄予了很大的希望，觉得她就是美国女单的未来。</P>
<P>可是看这次teb的sp的分数后，她们两个差距巨大啊~~</P>
<P>brian这是怎么了~~是不是cop实行以后没法和buttle比了？</P></DIV>
<P>
<P>kimmie 是1989年10月4日出生的.刚过了16岁的生日,她的年龄可以参加明年的奥运,</P>
<P>MAO是1990年9月25日(好像是),所以是15岁,不能参加明年的奥运.</P>
<P>KIMMIE是个很可爱的女孩,其实她也有不错的成绩.她分别获得03年全美NOVICE和04年全美JUNIOR组的冠军,05年的全美就更出色了.再加上她在10月初获得CAMPBELL拿了第二.再看看其他的年轻选手,几本上没有几个能有KIMMIE这样的成绩.现在有最大竞争力的就是已经进入了总站赛的ALISSA.但很多人还是喜欢KIMMIE.</P>
<P>我也一样,今天得知她的消息,真是另我很伤心. 我不知KIMMIE为何会出现这样严重的失误!!还不知她是否有摔伤.真是心疼死我了!!!</P>
<P></P>
<P>不过我对KIMMIE是充满信心的.我记得她在上赛季的青年组总站赛的SP也是比得不好,但自由滑就追上来了,结果得到了第三.我相信这次也会的.我会永远的支持她!!!只要这次不太差,KIMMIE还是有机会进总站赛的.我想可能是第一次参加大奖赛有点紧张而已,稍后就会好的!!!</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>yueguang</I>在2005-11-19 18:20:30的发言：</B>
<P>
<P>说T/M的滑行流畅,幽雅,这使他们跟其他选手不一样~~
<P>我不知道他们短节目的曲子是不是能滑成幽雅的风格~再又他们都能称做幽雅的话,我觉得就没有不幽雅的选手了~~</P></DIV>
<P>A skater with elegance and flow has them no matter what kind of program they have, like B&S could skate to some loud rock music and still have grace and poise. For some who DON'T have these qualities, no matter how the program is designed or what sort of choreography and music they have, they will NOT suddenly turn into elegant skaters. Elegance is a QUALITY that does not come and go with a program. Elegance and flow aren't based on whether you like the skater(s) or not either. From an unbiased view, T&M are probably one of the most graceful pairs today. Just my two cents...</P>
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<TD> </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>Ladies - Free Skating</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>Starting Order</TD></TR>
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<TD></TD></TR>
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<TD>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="70%" align=center bgColor=#606060 border=0>
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<TD>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 width="100%" align=center border=0>
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<TH>StN.</TH>
<TH>Name</TH>
<TH>Nat.</TH>
<TH>Current Rank</TH>
<TH>Points</TH></TR>
<TR>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Warm-Up Group 1</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD> </TD>
<TD> </TD></TR>
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<TD>1</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000157.htm" target="_blank" >Galina EFREMENKO </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//UKR.GIF"> UKR</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>37.48</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00003834.htm" target="_blank" >Anne Sophie CALVEZ </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//FRA.GIF"> FRA</TD>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>36.72</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00008172.htm" target="_blank" >Nadege BOBILLIER </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//FRA.GIF"> FRA</TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>38.30</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00006066.htm" target="_blank" >Fleur MAXWELL </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//LUX.GIF"> LUX</TD>
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>34.06</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00002037.htm" target="_blank" >Annette DYTRT </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//GER.GIF"> GER</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>44.38</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Warm-Up Group 2</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD> </TD>
<TD> </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00006588.htm" target="_blank" >Mao ASADA </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//JPN.GIF"> JPN</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>63.96</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000327.htm" target="_blank" >Elena SOKOLOVA </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//RUS.GIF"> RUS</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>48.20</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00004247.htm" target="_blank" >Sasha COHEN </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//USA.GIF"> USA</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>60.96</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00004797.htm" target="_blank" >Joannie ROCHETTE </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//CAN.GIF"> CAN</TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>57.08</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000324.htm" target="_blank" >Shizuka ARAKAWA </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//JPN.GIF"> JPN</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>57.98</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD>11</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00006942.htm" target="_blank" >Kimmie MEISSNER </A></TD>
<TD><IMG src="http://www.isufs.org/results/FLAGS//USA.GIF"> USA</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>44.92</TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>KIMMIE是最后一位,我觉得对她有好处.KIMMIE加油!!!!
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>figuresk8er</I>在2005-11-19 19:54:20的发言：</B>
<P>A skater with elegance and flow has them no matter what kind of program they have, like B&S could skate to some loud rock music and still have grace and poise. For some who DON'T have these qualities, no matter how the program is designed or what sort of choreography and music they have, they will NOT suddenly turn into elegant skaters. Elegance is a QUALITY that does not come and go with a program. Elegance and flow aren't based on whether you like the skater(s) or not either. From an unbiased view, T&M are probably one of the most graceful pairs today. Just my two cents...</P></DIV>
<P>
<P>不同意你的观点,T/M那还叫幽雅?说他们技术好,有难度,稳定都没意见,幽雅跟他们扯不上关系,特别是那个女人的动作表情让我想破脑袋也不觉得她幽雅.</P>
<P>Mao今年还真有点横空出世的感觉啊,Sasha这分数估计不是小卡的对手了,即使不失误最多也就65分的样子,恐怕对小卡构不成威胁.</P>
Elegance is NOT based on facial expressions or looks either...
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>figuresk8er</I>在2005-11-19 20:15:42的发言：</B>
Elegance is NOT based on facial expressions or looks either...</DIV>
<P>
<P>我不是单指她表情僵硬的问题,你没有完全理解我的意思,我指的就是对她们整体风格的感觉.还有你说幽雅与面部表情无关,我也不同意,elegant的意思就是tasteful and stylish in appearance or manner.</P>
<P>还有我说他们无幽雅可言并不是因为我不喜欢他们,虽然我的确是不喜欢他们.我也不是B/S的fan,但我觉得他们配得上elegant.OK,各自保留意见,他们不值得我说太多,总之我不认可他们.</P>
<P>有人评价托特米安尼娜/马列宁（即“T/M”，原谅我，我讨厌用缩写）是不倒翁，四平八稳的！看过他们的节目，他们技术一直很稳定。至于表演，个人觉得他们似乎很少使用起伏很强的音乐，表现得连贯，但少有激情段落。至于优雅与否，每个人都有自己的感觉。他们在场上与场下都是不苟言笑。相比之下，佩特若娃/蒂洪诺夫就平易近人多了。</P>
<P>庞清/佟健一直是我最欣赏的双人滑选手，无论是西方乐章还是中国音乐，都能淋漓尽致地表现出来。</P>
<P>顺便再问一下，去年法国站庞清/佟健的自由滑（梁祝化蝶）视频，谁有？能传一份吗？在月光宝盒登记很久了，一直音讯全无？谢谢先！</P>
那也叫优雅，笑死人了。刚看了C5的几个片段，如同广播体操~~
<P>男单LP结束,Jeff还是第一,不过似乎摔了一个.Brian也还是第二,不知道完成得如何.</P>
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<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00003253.htm" target="_blank" >Jeffrey BUTTLE </A></TD>
<TD>CAN</TD>
<TD align=right>139.40</TD>
<TD align=right>65.10</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>75.30</TD>
<TD align=right>7.65</TD>
<TD align=right>7.35</TD>
<TD align=right>7.40</TD>
<TD align=right>7.60</TD>
<TD align=right>7.65</TD>
<TD align=right>1.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#8 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>2</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00004708.htm" target="_blank" >Brian JOUBERT </A></TD>
<TD>FRA</TD>
<TD align=right>138.86</TD>
<TD align=right>67.06</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>71.80</TD>
<TD align=right>7.40</TD>
<TD align=right>6.75</TD>
<TD align=right>7.30</TD>
<TD align=right>7.15</TD>
<TD align=right>7.30</TD>
<TD align=right>0.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#12 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>3</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000123.htm" target="_blank" >Gheorghe CHIPER </A></TD>
<TD>ROM</TD>
<TD align=right>125.70</TD>
<TD align=right>59.40</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>67.30</TD>
<TD align=right>6.65</TD>
<TD align=right>6.60</TD>
<TD align=right>6.80</TD>
<TD align=right>6.80</TD>
<TD align=right>6.80</TD>
<TD align=right>1.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#10 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>4</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00005918.htm" target="_blank" >Samuel CONTESTI </A></TD>
<TD>FRA</TD>
<TD align=right>119.00</TD>
<TD align=right>58.30</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>62.70</TD>
<TD align=right>6.40</TD>
<TD align=right>5.95</TD>
<TD align=right>6.30</TD>
<TD align=right>6.25</TD>
<TD align=right>6.45</TD>
<TD align=right>2.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#11 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>5</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00005090.htm" target="_blank" >Sergei DOBRIN </A></TD>
<TD>RUS</TD>
<TD align=right>117.48</TD>
<TD align=right>58.68</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>58.80</TD>
<TD align=right>5.90</TD>
<TD align=right>5.55</TD>
<TD align=right>6.00</TD>
<TD align=right>5.95</TD>
<TD align=right>6.00</TD>
<TD align=right>0.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#6 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>6</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000129.htm" target="_blank" >Timothy GOEBEL </A></TD>
<TD>USA</TD>
<TD align=right>117.36</TD>
<TD align=right>54.46</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>62.90</TD>
<TD align=right>6.60</TD>
<TD align=right>6.00</TD>
<TD align=right>6.20</TD>
<TD align=right>6.40</TD>
<TD align=right>6.25</TD>
<TD align=right>0.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#9 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>7</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00003638.htm" target="_blank" >Xiaodong MA </A></TD>
<TD>CHN</TD>
<TD align=right>115.42</TD>
<TD align=right>65.22</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>50.20</TD>
<TD align=right>5.35</TD>
<TD align=right>4.75</TD>
<TD align=right>5.15</TD>
<TD align=right>4.95</TD>
<TD align=right>4.90</TD>
<TD align=right>0.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#1 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>8</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000303.htm" target="_blank" >Frederic DAMBIER </A></TD>
<TD>FRA</TD>
<TD align=right>113.60</TD>
<TD align=right>53.30</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD align=right>60.30</TD>
<TD align=right>6.30</TD>
<TD align=right>5.80</TD>
<TD align=right>5.85</TD>
<TD align=right>6.10</TD>
<TD align=right>6.10</TD>
<TD align=right>0.00</TD>
<TD align=middle>#2 </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle>9</TD>
<TD class=CellLeft><a href="http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00000067.htm" target="_bla
<P>一二相差不是很多啊~~看来joubert的LP发挥不错~~Jeff又摔了?</P><P>还是要恭喜一下jeff的~</P>