warrior 发表于 2006-11-25 12:12:00

川口&斯米尔诺夫 (13赛季节目曝光)



Yuko & SMIRNOV are the biggest surprise this season in pairs competition. Their debut at 'Cup of Russia' today was a great success. They delivered a flawless short program and scored over 59 points! You can watch this clip on youtube.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QO3J9oaJsI

They have very solid singles & pairs technique. Extremely solid sbs jumps with great unison; high throw jumps and excellent triple twist; sbs spins are unique and awesome; great posture, extension and lines from both skaters.

I watched their SP again on youtube, they are definitely the team to watch. If they can be consistent again in the long program, we can safely declare a star team is born. They will likely knock off O/S and M/B out of grand prix final next week in Japan. NHK will be very very interesting for pairs event. We will see the great battle between shen/zhao and zhang/zhang; a mini battle for the last ticket to GPF among K&S, M&B and O&S.

My instinct tells me K&S are in a strong position to medal at world championships, if not this year, definitely next year with Shen/Zhao & Pet/T retiring...

I see a lot of trouble ahead for team Pang/Tong primarily due to Pang's perpetual problem of underrotating her 3toe. S/S are back in the game, now we have K&S with very secure jump elements.

Shen/Zhao, Zhang/Zhang and S/S and now K/S are perhaps the strongest team these days.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1310/06tebpspkawsmi06cn2.jpg

此间的少年 发表于 2006-11-25 12:36:00

是不错,但结论下太早了吧,看完LP后再说

warrior 发表于 2006-11-25 12:46:00

以下是引用此间的少年在2006-11-25 12:36:16的发言:
是不错,但结论下太早了吧,看完LP后再说

I am really worried about Pang & Tong. Zhang & Zhang have technical difficulty and consistency going for them, so they should stay onIf top for a long time. But Pang & Tong have neither consistency nor difficulty. Their sbs jumps have cost/are costing them dearly. I don't know if Pang can still fix her problem. I don't see Pang & Tong can challenge zhang & zhang in the new Olympic cycle, but just hope them to hold onto the podium.

wenwenyin 发表于 2006-11-25 13:12:00

这对选手参加日本站?

cozybreeze 发表于 2006-11-25 13:17:00

<P>楼主文中的第二段把他们的各项技术都吹嘘得无懈可击,在下实在是不敢苟同啊。</P>
<P>暂且不论他们的consistency是否会真如楼主预测的那么棒,但就昨晚这套SP来说,虽然SBS 3T和3TWIST的确不错,但他们的抛跳落冰非常惊险,只能算是hang on to the landing,而且SBS SPINS并不是非常同步,两人在转速这么慢的情况下,还是出现在同一时刻方向不同的现象,并且在中间换姿势的时候女选手的重心有大的晃动,这怎么能算great unison呢???</P>

warrior 发表于 2006-11-25 13:27:00

以下是引用cozybreeze在2006-11-25 13:17:01的发言:

楼主文中的第二段把他们的各项技术都吹嘘得无懈可击,在下实在是不敢苟同啊。
暂且不论他们的consistency是否会真如楼主预测的那么棒,但就昨晚这套SP来说,虽然SBS 3T和3TWIST的确不错,但他们的抛跳落冰非常惊险,只能算是hang on to the landing,而且SBS SPINS并不是非常同步,两人在转速这么慢的情况下,还是出现在同一时刻方向不同的现象,并且在中间换姿势的时候女选手的重心有大的晃动,这怎么能算great unison呢???

Not sure about whether it's 'hang onto the landing'. Maybe that's just their wonky throw technique. We'll see whether they have secure throw jumps in long program. That's the only thing I'm not sure. Their sbs spins are definitely first rated. You can not expect unison every time, but dougnut spins are very rare among pairs. I'll say it again, pang & tong are in trouble. But luckily for us, K&S can not and probably will not compete at next Olympics since I heard K would not want to give up her Japanese citizenship.

丽丽熊 发表于 2006-11-25 14:13:00

<P>现在下结论也太早了吧!</P>
<P>仅仅一个sp还不能看出多少东西!</P>
<P>这个sp也没楼主说的那样perfect!尽管两人技术动作都完成了,但是节目的整体性一般!<BR>而且看完后,这套节目并没有让我留下太深的印象!</P>
<P>当年o/s、s/s出道时给我们的惊喜,绝对不下于这次!但是不能保证有持续稳定的表现,一切都是白搭!</P>
<P>把p/t现在的情况来做比较,似乎没什么可比性吧??</P>
<P>至少也要等到她们完全恢复状态后再比!</P>

xianannan 发表于 2006-11-25 16:39:00

sorry k/s到底是哪对啊,搞不清啊

天空很希腊 发表于 2006-11-25 16:44:00

感觉充斥了强烈的个人主义色彩,有些段落并不是十分客观!

loooop 发表于 2006-11-25 17:01:00

没有看直播,看分数还行?很疑惑,他们代表俄罗斯参赛?我还以为又一对美加选手......SS比得不错,PE、CH、IN三个小分相当高。

想见怀恋_100 发表于 2006-11-25 17:14:00

<P>虽然俺也比较喜欢Yuko,这种类型的女伴一直很少,但是K/S还没LZ说的那么厉害,Yuko因为搭档问题还耽误了将近一个奥运周期,和现任搭档配合还不到一年,短节目中明显默契程度不够。</P>

非砚 发表于 2006-11-25 17:42:00

<P>这个,偶承认他们的潜力不错,发展土壤也好,但是LP还没比就这么高调地捧他们,不好吧……</P>

青鸟jerry 发表于 2006-11-25 17:47:00

一个相对Clean的SP并不能说明什么,还是要再观察一段时间,能否保持技术的稳定和上升势头才是下结论的重要因素~

网网狗 发表于 2006-11-25 19:19:00

<P>很疑惑为什么楼主看了一场短节目就激动成这样子??</P>
<P>今天楼主发了不少帖子,够忙的吧?</P>
<P>不过他们有那么好么?当年O/S比他们好的程度不止一点吧~~</P>
<P>要是这种程度就要代替P/T,那得先问问P/T(RUS)答不答应让他们排在自己前头。</P>
<P>还有,若说技术,我更觉得一般。真的,什么都在一流选手中很一般。甚至NNN那对现在的技术都比他们好。</P>

sunshine 发表于 2006-11-25 21:45:00

<P>谈谈个人看法,这套“影子”协奏曲比较适合这对选手的分格,他们的技术动作完成的尚可但有很多潜力可挖。他们的短节目中个人觉得除了SBS 3T要比p/t的好一些外,包括SBS spin(换足后也出现了不同步)在内的动作和P/T都有较大的差距。他们的燕式步,联合旋转的变化都还不能和P/T相比。还有他们的抛跳落冰很不干净,是靠女选手的调整才避免失误的。而且这套节目的后边部分在衔接上显得与音乐也有一些脱节。可以说这是一对很有希望的选手,但目前没有太大的威胁。</P>
<P>另外,川口和Z/Z是同时出道的选手,记得那年z/z获得世界青少年冠军时,川口和她的前任俄罗斯搭档获得了亚军。目前这对选手的前途还很难说,首先他们未来将代表哪个国家谁也不知道,俄罗斯冰邪是厉害,但是日本如果看到了甜头,估计不会轻易让自己的女选手去代表别的国家的。 另外他们这种组合能够持续多久也是一个疑问。当年O/S和前任搭档在02-03赛季大出风头,无奈各种原因世界锦标赛短节目进入前四后,在自由滑中严重失常,导致两人分手。结果女选手和其男朋友的新组合一直沦为世界二流水平。而男选手则跑到英国blackpool的一个冰上演出团参加职业表演了。</P>
<P>这对日俄组合潜力是很大的,但是他们复杂的背景注定这对选手的发展会有许多坎坷。不过还是希望他们能够有好的发展。另外,川口现在已经很有淑女味道了,想当初和张丹一样是个男生头,现在的张丹难道不能在外形上更女性化一些吗?</P>
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