原帖由 fjn219 于 2007-5-5 00:07 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
我们是不是集体建议一下鱼头？给JEFF开个专区？
这个建议好啊！支持以下啊！
Skaters Buttle, Rochette thinking big
Cam Cole , CanWest News Service; Vancouver SunPublished: Saturday, October 27, 2007
VANCOUVER -- Not an Axel has been turned nor a camel flown in anger yet, but Jeff Buttle and Joannie Rochette have already got their body armour on, preparing to parry the same questions from now until the 2010 Vancouver-Whistler Olympics.
"How's the Quad coming, Jeff?"
"Where are you at with the triple-triple combination, Joannie?"
The reigning king and queen, respectively, of Canadian figure skating, less than a week away from beginning their competitive seasons at HomeSense Skate Canada International in Quebec City's Pepsi Colisee, might as well get used to it, because neither is going anywhere without the big jumps.
And both - Buttle, a month past his 25th birthday, and Rochette, who'll turn 22 before the Canadian championships in Vancouver in January - are late converts to the truth about skating's weapons race.
"I think there's still something to be said for someone who goes out and skates a clean program, but at the world championships, I really don't think you can show up without a Quad in one program and find yourself on the podium. It certainly wasn't going to happen last year in Tokyo, and I think that's foreshadowing for the future," said Buttle, the 2005 world silver and 2006 Olympic bronze medal winner, who slipped to sixth this past spring after an abbreviated 2006-07 season that began with a stress fracture in his lower back.
"I'm still working on (the Quad). Doing the off-ice with my trainer in California really helped this summer, and just giving it some time, the consistency is going to go up throughout the season, as opposed to last year where I only started working on it in February. It's very rare you're going to get a jump consistent without falling on it and going for it, so you know that's a process you have to go through."
Buttle will join Canadian teammates Chris Mabee and Vaughn Chipeur in a 12-man Skate Canada field that includes defending world champion Brian Joubert of France.
Rochette, the three-time Canadian champion who scraped into the top 10 in Tokyo by finishing fifth in the women's long program, knows she has some catching up to do and is prepared to endure some short-term pain, even if it means so-so results this season.
"You know, it's step by step, I think. I went through a similar process four years ago when I was changing my technique on the Lutz, and it took about two years to do it," Rochette said.
"We're three years from the Olympics (and) it isn't that long. Everyone is asking about that triple-triple, and it's going to take some time to master it and actually land it in competitions - especially being a little bit older. When you're young, you just go try things. I think last year, I was a little bit too cautious, and this year I just need to go out and try it, no matter what is the result. It's more of a long-term investment, and even if this year is not (successful) every time, I have to start somewhere."
Buttle is trying to keeping tabs on his home in Lake Arrowhead, Calif., where wildfires are closing in.
"I made it out just in time, came back to do Kurt Browning's show in Mississauga (last week), so I decided rather than go back for a week and a half, I would just stay up here for Skate Canada - and I guess I made the right decision, because the fires are about a five-minute drive from where my cabin is," Buttle said.
"My roommate was evacuated officially on Tuesday, so basically all we know about our place is what we hear on CNN. The fire is on the west side of the lake and we're more on the south side."
Rochette, former Canadian champion Cynthia Phaneuf and Lesley Hawker will skate for Canada in the women's division, which is headlined by world silver medallist Mao Asada of Japan and American Emily Hughes.
Canada will also enter three teams in pairs - including Canadian champs Jessica Dube and Bryce Davison - and ice dancing, where the fast-advancing team of Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir will be one of 10 couples competing, with two-time world silver medalists Marie-France Dubreuil and Patrice Lauzon of Montreal having taken the year off.
Vancouver Sun
web site of this article:
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=d70dce96-8581-4ae0-ac24-e0fe5fe3ba04&k=43846
我的英文不好.
hope somebody else can translate it=)
看到题目还吓了我一小跳
全说的是跳跃训练情况： jeff的四周，罗大姐的3-3
但是看样子jeff的情况不太好
767楼的译文~原文地址↓
Skaters Buttle, Rochette thinking big
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Jeff Buttle和Joannie Rochette已经做好准备,去面对同样的挑战,从现在直到2010年的温哥华冬奥会。
"你何时能攻克4周,Jeff?"
"你的3-3连跳练成了吗,Joannie ?"
加拿大花样滑冰的男女头号选手,还有不到一周时间就将在魁北克举行的Skate Canada开始自己的新赛季,他们都必须学着去适应和习惯,因为跳跃再次成为了左右比赛胜负的关键。
Buttle在上个月刚刚度过自己25岁的生日,而Rochette也将在明年一月的温哥华全国锦标赛前年满22岁,他们正处在心态和技术已然成熟的阶段。
"我想肯定还是有一些人会说’你并不需要执著于4周,只要滑出一套Clean的节目就可以了’,但在世锦赛上,我真的不认为一个没有四周的节目可以使你登上领奖台,至少东京世锦赛印证了这一点,同时我觉得这也预示着在未来的趋势," Buttle说。
"我依然在为4周继续努力。在加州的这个夏天,我与训练师在冰场之外的成果让我受益颇多,需要的只是一些时间,最终跳跃的稳定性会在整个赛季的比赛中体现出来,而去年我只是在2月份做了一些前期的准备,之后就由于背伤而中断了训练;另外稳定性的提高是肯定离不开一些摔倒和失败的尝试,你知道这是必经的过程。"
Buttle将和国家队的队友Chris Mabee和Vaughn Chipeur一起参加Skate Canada,这次比赛有12名选手参与角逐,其中包括世界冠军,法国的Brian Joubert。
Rochette,作为三届加拿大全国冠军,她在东京世锦赛上由于自由滑第五的成绩才勉强保住了前十的排名,她很清楚必须在诸多方面迎头赶上,并准备好了承受一些短期的阵痛,即使这意味着本赛季将遭遇的挫折。
"你知道,这是循序渐进的。我有过类似的经历,四年前,我改变了勾手三周的技术,并花了两年左右的时间来稳定和巩固它。" Rochette说。
"我们离冬奥会还有三年,不短也不长。每个人都在说3-3连跳,现在的确需要一些时间来掌握它并真正地在比赛中完成;尤其是作为一个20出头的选手。当你年轻时,你尝试的信心会更足。去年我是有些过于谨慎,而今年必须得跨出那一步,不管结果如何。这更像一种长期的投资,即使今年不是每次都能成功,我一定要开始。"
同时Buttle也时刻关注着他在加州Lake Arrowhead的训练地,那里位于最近肆虐的加州山林大火的受灾范围内。
"我刚好躲过了这次灾难,因为上周回国在Mississauga做了一场Kurt Browning的show,所以我决定就不再回去加州,而待在国内准备Skate Canada,我想我做了正确的决定,因为这次的起火点距离我的驻地才五分钟车程。"Buttle说。
"我的室友已经在周二被官方的救援组织疏散了,所以我们所有的信息来源都只是CNN,大火主要是在湖的西岸,而我们的训练营更多的是在南岸一侧。"
Rochette,以及加拿大前女单冠军Cynthia Phaneuf和Lesley Hawker,都将参加Skate Canada,这其中还包括了世界银牌得主日本的浅田真央和美国的Emily Hughes。
加拿大也将有三队双人组合参加此次赛事-包括加拿大双人冠军Jessica Dube/Bryce Davison,而冰舞方面,则由进步神速的Tessa Virtue /Scott Moir领衔出战~
Jeff是大难不死嘛……火灾他居然没有正面遇上……
加油吧，Jeff~~~~祈祷你这次能成功的完成4-3……
小Jeff加油，四周嘛，觉得状态好就做吧，期待成功的4-3
今天早上還在和ANNIE討論這篇報道來著
與其說想要看他完成4-3。。。
我更希望他能有穩定的3A 就好
他現在自己也是給自己很大壓力的感覺。。
今天补了CHAN同学的LP
不知道是不是因为身型比较相似的缘故
他的不少动作都有Jeff的影子
恩...肯定不会看错的,真的有很多相似的地方
原帖由 Annie 于 2007-10-30 16:05 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
今天补了CHAN同学的LP
不知道是不是因为身型比较相似的缘故
他的不少动作都有Jeff的影子
恩...肯定不会看错的,真的有很多相似的地方
我觉得小陈同学的身材不如JEFF，小家伙腿有点短......
才16岁嘛，还没长开呢 。今后肯定是个帅哥。
还有我觉得他好像比同龄时候的jeff要成熟一点。
大概我对欧美SG比较有感吧,对CHAN同学一直...... (虽然他长得其实算清秀)
CHAN同学是171,比Jeff矮了两公分,不过会长的.才16嘛(虽然看起来不止16了,难以想象这家伙比我小两岁)
Jeff应该是欧米人中,难得的长相比实际年龄小的人吧 HOHO~
FJN说"比同龄时候的jeff要成熟一点",然后偶又回想起可爱阳光滴小Jeff顶着正太头的样子了
歪楼一下：CHAN现在还是很漂亮的，希望以后长得别走形。CHAN的滑行真的很好。POWER差一些，但是感觉很轻盈。
至于JEFF的4-3，我预测他在SC会跳成4-2。
刚才在CBC转哟，看到更新了一篇关于Jeff的文章，里面提到Tracy Wilson跟我家光头都对Jeff上四不太乐观…… http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/feature-jeffrey-buttle.html
Feature
The quad quest
Canada's Jeffrey Buttle hopes a difficult new element to his program returns him to medal contention
Last Updated Mon., Oct. 29, 2007
Tony Care, CBC Sports
Jeffrey Buttle needs the quad in his routine to win, but reaching this goal may not be that simple.
Buttle's suspicions about the jump's importance were confirmed at the conclusion of the 2007 world figure skating championships in Tokyo last March.
When Buttle – the final competitor of the men's event – skated off the ice following his long program, he was quickly approached by coach Rafael Arutunian, who informed the 2006 Olympic bronze medallist that six of his top rivals had performed quadruple jumps.
The news only reinforced the Sudbury, Ont., skater's firm belief that he was behind the rest of the field, and that he had to do something about it.
After surprising some experts with his energetic and inspiring effort at the Torino Games, Buttle, wanted to build on his momentum by adding the difficult quadruple toe loop to his expanding repertoire the ensuing summer.
Unfortunately, doctors diagnosed Buttle, 25, with a stress facture in August 2006, forcing Canada's best performer to miss the entire Grand Prix season to rest his ailing back.
By the time Buttle, whose injury was attributed to the torque he generates required to perform spins, returned for training last November, other pressing matters had taken priority.
"It really hindered with my training," Buttle explained to CBCSports.ca "Once I got back on the ice after the injury, it was really just about trying to get back into shape and build more strength in time for my next competition instead of being able to work on my jumps."
Buttle fell during a quad attempt at the 2007 world championships last March in Tokyo. (Toshifumi Kitamura/AFP/Getty Images) Despite the setback, Buttle won his third consecutive national men's title during his first post-injury competition in January, and finished a respectable sixth at the world championships.
Although his back pain subsided, the lack of training caused Buttle's conditioning to suffer, but nonetheless he was sitting second after the short program at the worlds, behind eventual champion Brian Joubert of France.
Feeling a little reckless, Buttle decided to include the daunting quad jump into his long program.
"I went down on the quad toe, which again I hadn't really tried all season, but we went for it anyway," said Buttle. "It was one of those things where I went for everything and it just didn't happen. There are days when you're just a little bit off and it can be pretty costly."
Travelled to U.S. to work with strength coach
Determined to avoid a similar fate this season, Buttle travelled to California in June for four months to work with Chris Hoffman, the strength coach for former five-time world champion Michelle Kwan of the U.S.
There, Buttle strengthened his back by enduring an arduous leg exercise program and began the process of making the quad jump part of his regular routine.
"I sort of sat down with him at the very beginning and told him what had happened last year and he just realized that I needed to improve my basic strength before I started doing these impact jumps. So we spent a lot of time doing basic training and then made it more specific to figure skating.
"The training really went well. Skating obviously requires a lot of leg strength, so if you can strengthen your legs, you can alleviate any back pain. Chris helped me do the exercises with the proper technique to make sure that I was maximizing my power."
With Buttle preparing for his first competition of the season – the Skate Canada International event beginning with CBC Sports' coverage on Friday in Quebec City – he can do so knowing the prospects of challenging the best skaters in the world appear promising.
Indeed, spending long hours with Hoffman has significantly increased his chances for success, but Buttle doesn't hesitate conceding his biggest concern.
" is coming along really well," Buttle said. "I started landing it last month in practice, but the consistency definitely needs to improve. I really need to push it and increase the number of times I land it. That takes time and perseverance."
CBC figure skating analyst Tracy Wilson believes the three months lost to injury hurts Buttle's chances of competing against the likes of Joubert, whose athleticism and ability to continually land the quad separates him from the rest of the field.
Even underrated Czech skater Tomas Verner, a fourth-place finisher at the worlds, performs two quads in his long program, giving him a big advantage over his Canadian rival.
"You need to be landing it at about an 85 per cent clip in practice to make it worth the risk," said Wilson.
"Jeff to me is the consummate professional and very much a perfectionist. But bringing in a new element into the program like the quad isn't easy. It's usually the first jump in a skater's performance, so if Jeff falls, he has to be able to recover quickly and not let it affect the rest of his program."
Browning agrees with Wilson
Wilson's opinion is shared by the man who pioneered the jump, Kurt Browning, the first athlete ever to successfully land the quad at the 1988 Budapest world championships.
Browning, also a CBC analyst, doesn't expect Buttle to have command of the jump when the March 2008 worlds take place in Gothenburg, Sweden.
"It's not that I don't believe Jeff can't do it, but there are a few small things about the quad that most people don't realize," said the four-time world champion, who also happens to be Buttle's idol.
"With this jump you need to reach and Jeffrey gets a little tight before he jumps, so he loses some of that potential power. That's something that he needs to address because he's shutting down about 15 to 20 per cent of his potential jump.
"There will be extra pressure on him because he hasn't landed it yet in competition. It's a monkey on his back that he has to get rid of."
Still, stressing over lost time will only hinder Buttle's changes for the upcoming season. While there is some ground to make up, he can only hope the laborious training in California will once again turn him into a medal contender.
"Last year at the world championships, it was evident that the quad was back and now it just has to be there," he said. "And I don't want to get left behind."
It's also history Buttle wants to avoid for a second time.
原帖由 loooop 于 2007-10-30 22:44 发表 http://bbs1.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
歪楼一下：CHAN现在还是很漂亮的，希望以后长得别走形。CHAN的滑行真的很好。POWER差一些，但是感觉很轻盈。
至于JEFF的4-3，我预测他在SC会跳成4-2。
能把4周完成我就可以烧高香了
其实我本来想写“3-3”，怕被布丁追打
原帖由 loooop 于 2007-10-30 23:00 发表 http://bbs1.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
其实我本来想写“3-3”，怕被布丁追打
怎么会呢？布丁们都是很理性的。
我们也不太希望jeff短节目就拼命上4-3
原本3f-3t是很好的啊