fs2046 发表于 2006-11-18 10:16:00

Brian Joubert 讨论专贴

我是个不折不扣的‘雷丝’,但我同样喜欢Brian Joubert,因为他和Evan都是当今男单里少有的阳刚派风格的代表;而且,他们从不怯于向世界展示他们要成为世界冠军的壮志和决心。

我从不掩饰自己对帅哥的好感,从盐湖城花痴美少年亚古丁开始…对小雷,我的第一印象是,这么漂亮的身材不做模特太浪费了;对小朱,我的第一印象是,这么漂亮的脸光滑冰太浪费了。当然,我很快发现,他的表现和他的外表一样抢眼,特别是2004欧锦赛的脱颖而出和2006世锦赛的完美回归。

希望这个话题可以成为喜欢Brian的朋友畅所欲言的乐土,一起见证他的成长,并伴他走向成功。


Yvonne 发表于 2006-11-20 10:55:00

<P>这到是,Brian没了跳跃分数会有很大的影响。</P>
<P>至于Oda,他还是属于那种各项技术蛮均衡的选手,虽然人长得抱歉了点。不过花滑毕竟还是要比实力的,你看现在俄罗斯几个小的哪个不比Oda好看啊,但是水平实在太寒。</P>

Yvonne 发表于 2006-11-23 14:54:00

<P>我已在FTP里上传了此次法国站Brian的SP,LP和fluff的高清晰版。(外国某电视台的,不是日本的)</P>
<P>fluff里有Brian练击剑的镜头,暴帅暴帅。还有他谈新编舞Kurt Browning,可惜法文我是一句也听不懂。</P>
<P>文件都在<STRONG>2006 TEB/Men</STRONG>之下。</P>

纳尼亚花蜜 发表于 2006-11-20 17:39:00

<P>weir同学的quad是敢练不敢上,我还看过他在练习中作4-3-2呢,就在比赛热身的时候,但正式比赛……。不知道他有没有这个水平,但他基本没这个胆量。唉,叹息ing</P>
<P>brian似乎很难表演古典的东西,不知道他会不会把动作明星的道路走到底。其实也不一定非要求运动员改换风格,只要出来的都是好节目,风格单一也无所谓啊~~</P><br>ps:我倒还蛮喜欢oda的,他很敢表现(效果如何不说了),长得很有喜感,一看就想笑。不过不希望他表演古典的东西,觉得满糟蹋的

丽丽熊 发表于 2006-11-18 23:50:00

<P>偶就是进来花痴小猪的!口水ing^_^</P>
<P>小猪现在是花滑男单中少有的man型的帅哥了!</P>
<P>不过小猪要想更进一步的话,一定要忘掉matrix,上新节目才是王道!</P>
<P>偶现在就期待小猪的新lp^_^</P>

丽丽熊 发表于 2006-11-18 23:54:00

<P>对了,不知道你们有没有感觉?</P>
<P>偶怎么老是觉得小猪的手臂相对于身材来说有点短!所以显得身材更壮,做动作也不容易有艺术感!</P>
<P>不过这是爹妈生的,没法补,小猪还是加油用表演来说话吧!</P>

fs2046 发表于 2006-11-18 10:16:00

<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian Joubert</FONT>个人简历</P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Date of birth: Sept 20, 1984</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Residence: <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Poitiers</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">France</st1:country-region></st1:place></FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Height: 179cm</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Coach: Jean-Christophe Simond</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Club: Club <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region> F.F.S.G.</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Hobbies: bowling, motorbike</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Book: Brian Joubert: le feu de la glace</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Personal best total score: 237.83 11/25/2006 Cup of Russia </FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Personal best score SP: 80.31 3/21/2006 World Championships </FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Personal best score FS: 160.13 11/25/2006 Cup of Russia</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Music Short Program as of 2006/2007 season</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">James Bond Die Another Day (soundtrack)</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Music Free Skating / Free Dance as of 2006/2007 season</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Enter Sandman by Appocalyptica plays Metallica </FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">The Unforgiven by Appocalyptica plays Metallica </FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Nothing Else Matters by Appocalyptica plays Metallica </FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">O Verona from Romeo and Juliet soundtrack by various composers</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>骄人的成绩单</P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Competitive Results: (2006-2007 season will be shown as 2007)</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">World Championships</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">2<SUP>nd</SUP> (2004, 2006)</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Olymipics</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">6<SUP>th</SUP> (2006)</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">14<SUP>th</SUP> (2004)</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">European Championships</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">1<SUP>st</SUP> (2004, 2007) </FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">2<SUP>nd</SUP> (2003, 2005)</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">3<SUP>rd</SUP> (2002, 2006)</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">French Championships</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">1<SUP>st</SUP> (2003-2006)</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">3<SUP>rd</SUP> (2002)</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">French Masters</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">1<SUP>st</SUP> (2004, 2006, 2007)</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">3<SUP>rd</SUP> (2003, 2005)</FONT></P>
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<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">GP:</FONT></P>
<P 0pt? 0cm><FONT face="Times New Roman">Trophee Eric Bompard </FONT></P>
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fs2046 发表于 2006-11-18 10:17:00

<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeee11"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian Joubert-</FONT>光阴的故事</FONT></STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">1984</FONT>年的初秋,小朱出生在位于法国中西部的一座宁静小镇<FONT face="Times New Roman">Poitiers</FONT>。<FONT face="Times New Roman">11</FONT>个月时,一场大病让他失去了一个肾。尽管他最初的梦想是做一个冰球明星,但为了他的健康,父母为他选择了相对较为安全的滑冰课程。<FONT face="Times New Roman">4</FONT>岁起,他和两个姐姐一起开始了冰舞训练。但出于对跳跃的迷恋,他很快便从冰舞转到了单人滑。</STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG>与很多选手自小就远离家乡,独自闯荡的经历相反,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>的恋家情结让他与家乡的启蒙教练<FONT face="Times New Roman">Veronique Guyon</FONT>结缘,并一起合作了<FONT face="Times New Roman">15</FONT>年之久。后来出于家庭原因,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Guyon</FONT>辞职,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>转投至<FONT face="Times New Roman">Laurent Depouilly</FONT>门下。<FONT face="Times New Roman">2003</FONT>至<FONT face="Times New Roman">2004</FONT>赛季,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Alexei Yagudin</FONT>成为他的技术顾问,这段伙伴关系曾一度被传为佳话。而正是这个赛季,小朱的成绩突飞猛进,进入了个人竞技史上的第一个黄金时代。</STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">2004</FONT>年布达佩斯的欧锦赛上,他以势如破竹的气势一举击败了在亚古丁后便被认为无人能敌的冰坛霸主<FONT face="Times New Roman">Evgeni Plushenko</FONT>。迄今为止,可以在盐湖城冬奥会后将小普挑落马下的选手除桑度外仅有<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>。而这次胜利也使小朱成为法国四十年来首位获得欧洲冠军称号的男单选手。</STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG>可惜的是,这场师生关系很快便因<FONT face="Times New Roman">Alexei </FONT>与小朱当时的编舞<FONT face="Times New Roman">Nikolai Morozov</FONT>之间的不和而宣告结束(也有说这是他的教练和法国冰协在从中作梗的结果,事实真相至今众说纷纭)。与亚分手后的不久,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>与他的教练<FONT face="Times New Roman">Depouilly</FONT>矛盾日益激化,并一怒之下<FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT>解雇了他。</STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG>作为世界亚军,欧洲冠军和连续多年的全法冠军,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>凌厉的跳跃能力在当今的男单选手中可谓傲视群雄,他的招牌动作包括强劲而稳定的<FONT face="Times New Roman">quad-toe – triple-toe</FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman">quad salchow</FONT>等高难度跳跃。但他的旋转能力曾一度被广为质疑。要强的他在<FONT face="Times New Roman">2005-2006</FONT>年度聘请了瑞士旋转女皇<FONT face="Times New Roman">Lucinda Ruh</FONT>为指导,狠下苦功,旋转技术有了大幅度提高。</STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>的性格里有种越挫越勇的倔强非常吸引我。都灵奥运的铩羽,反而激发了他知耻而后勇的决心。若果说布达佩斯让他一鸣惊人,那么卡尔加利则见证了他的东山再起。尽管他再一次和世界冠军擦肩而过,他和他的<FONT face="Times New Roman">fans</FONT>都欣喜地看到,这一次,他们和胜利的距离仅在毫厘之间。</STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG>小朱的成长过程中出现过很多贵人,比如,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Yagudin</FONT>,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Morozov</FONT>,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Ruh</FONT>和现任教练<FONT face="Times New Roman">Jean-Christophe Simond</FONT>。其中亚古丁对他的影响最为深远,这在他后期节目的步伐编排,节目选择和演绎风格上体现得尤为突出,但也正因如此,他们常被会拿来比较,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>甚至被指责为是在<FONT face="Times New Roman">copy</F

fs2046 发表于 2006-11-18 10:18:00

<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>TEB news</STRONG></FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>Joubert Takes Lead at Trophee Bompard</STRONG></FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">By SALVATORE ZANCA</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">PARIS</st1:place></st1:City> - Brian Joubert took the lead at the Trophee Bompard Friday with a near-flawless short program in the men's event.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Joubert has 77.35 points at the fourth event of the Grand Prix figure skating series and is comfortably ahead of countryman Alban Preaubert, who has 71.38.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">"I am very pleased. My aim was to make no mistakes," Joubert said.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">No Frenchman has ever won the individual skating event in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Paris</st1:place></st1:City> since the competition started in 1986.</FONT></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Joubert completed a quadruple toe loop and triple toe loop combination, as well as a big triple axel.</FONT></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">"I fought for the toe loop because I was off balance a little but I reacted very quickly to do the triple after it," Joubert said.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Preaubert took third at Skate America three weeks ago after coming second in the short program with an entertaining program to "Bumble-Bee Boogie."</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Russian veteran Ilya Klimkin was third with 64.80 points. He was marked down after falling on his quad toe loop in the combination.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">The women's short program takes place later Friday with world champion Kimmie Meissner against Miki Ando _ who beat Meissner at Skate America _ and Skate Canada champion Joannie Rochette.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Ice dance world champions Albena Denkova and Maxim Staviski of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Bulgaria</st1:country-region></st1:place> will also be in action. They lead after the compulsory waltz in the first part of the competition.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Winning won't be easy for Joubert.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">"The problem I have is the pressure in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region> even if I am confident in training," he said.</FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">The 22-year-old Frenchman won the 2004 European title over eventual Olympic gold medalist Evgeni Plushenko.</FONT></P>
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loooop 发表于 2006-11-18 17:48:00

<P>恩,楼主真勤奋,鼓个掌先~~~</P>
<P>不过说实话,我对这两人有些审美疲劳~~~LY如果不提高SP的水准,他再能COMEBACK也只有瞅着别人拿世界冠军的份。BRIAN的SP滑得还好,可PCS掉的(不觉得这站裁判PCS打得紧)~~~</P>

非砚 发表于 2006-11-18 18:08:00

<P>这次法国站的裁判明显不那么慷慨,PCS掉的……</P>
<P>而且小猪今年这身costum也没去年的显身材了……</P>

sample_yao 发表于 2006-11-29 13:46:00

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>MJ也有尊严</I>在2006-11-28 21:25:51的发言:</B><BR><BR>
<P>平心而论,普目前已经在技术方面不是翘楚了,尽管他只有24岁,比JEFF还要小两个月,高强度和超长时间训练各种四周造成身体老化现象严重,说他目前的身体状况是超过40岁也不为过.</P>
<P>最怕他回来是靠超烂的节目和超水的PCS继续统治其他的人的噩梦,不要说这个可能很小,看看桑德胡和威尔俄罗斯站的TES和PCS对比,再看看D/S(RUS)在俄罗斯冰协一手追捧下PCS水涨船高,在俄罗斯男单后继乏人的情况下,搞啥猫腻都清楚.</P></DIV>
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<P>我个人倒是觉得PLU的PCS水份比俄DS在COR的水分小多了,他节目再烂,编排再差,加乱扭加完全不顾及音乐, 全都算上。看看现在的这些男单选手,PLU的统治也是能被理解的。况且05-06是PLU为奥运会金牌最急功近利的一年,如果他回来,应该不会象去年那么狂躁了。PLU的PCS是水些,但可能算不上超水吧?俄DS的才真应该算超水。让我们把OLY上面的PLU LP PCS全面降0.5吧,这样的分数大家能接受么</P>
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<TD class=xl22width=128 height=17><FONT size=2>Skating Skills</FONT></TD>
<TD class=xl23width=70 x:num><FONT size=2>8.46</FONT></TD>
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<TD class=xl23width=70 x:num><FONT size=2>7.75</FONT></TD>
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<TD class=xl23width=70 x:num><FONT size=2>8.39</FONT></TD>
<TD class=xl24align=right x:num x:fmla="=B3-0.5"><FONT size=2>7.89</FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD class=xl22width=128 height=17><FONT size=2>Choreography</FONT></TD>
<TD class=xl23width=70 x:num><FONT size=2>8.18</FONT></TD>
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<TD class=xl22width=128 height=17><FONT size=2>Interpretation</FONT></TD>
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<P>如果俄冰邪狂搞PLU,我不会愤愤不平,人家本来就是强。但如果他们狂搞D/S,我就受不了了。。。。</P>

clament 发表于 2006-11-29 14:02:00

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<P>如果本来就强,那又何必“锦上添花”呢?水分就是水分,此水和彼水看不出有啥差别,都是对运动精神的污辱。</P>
<P>还有按“节目再烂,编排再差,加乱扭加完全不顾及音乐, 全都算上”的说辞,那PCS各小分都给上7,真是好“<STRONG>公平</STRONG>”哟</P>
<P>嗯,这里是小猪讨论专贴,话题转向PLUSH回归是不是不太合适呀,或者另开一个专题会比较好一些。检讨ING</P>

BUSYYLIIVING 发表于 2006-11-29 14:15:00

<P>继续对不起小猪了。</P>
<P>P的节目“节目再烂,编排再差,加乱扭加完全不顾及音乐, 全都算上”摆脱,这都能给7分以上,</P>
<P>,呵呵,看来水分大的不是裁判咧。DS的节目再烂,水分再大,但是人家好歹也有编排,起码人家</P>
<P>做到了俺音乐的节奏办事阿。这方面和P不是一个档次的。不要总和P混在一起谈吗,这对P多不尊重哟</P>

clarvet 发表于 2006-11-29 14:29:00

<P>咔咔,先谈小猪~~~小猪无论从今年的footwork,jump,spin都与去年有了非常大的进步。希望他能再接再厉,在表现力上获得长足的提高,这样才是一个真正的花样滑冰冠军的风采。</P>
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