fs2046
发表于 2006-11-21 11:15:00
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt">谢谢大家的讨论,I agree with most of your opinions, 补充点我的观点:<FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">1 <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Oda</FONT> </FONT>的<FONT face="Times New Roman">81.8</FONT>的确是<FONT face="Times New Roman">COP</FONT>下男单<FONT face="Times New Roman">SP</FONT>第二高的成绩。我(非常)无法接受这名选手的外形,但他<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">绝对是个实力派,技术全面扎实,有很强的表现力</FONT>,他的<FONT face="Times New Roman">fly me to the moon</FONT>在<FONT face="Times New Roman">technical difficulty </FONT>,<FONT face="Times New Roman">choreography</FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman"> execution</FONT>都做得很不错,<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f7f709">我看好他在世锦赛上的前途</FONT>。但他的确不适合古典。<FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">2 </FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">小兰和小朱</FONT>都是当代男单的佼佼者,他们完全不是一种风格,<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">谁也无法取代谁</FONT>,就像我们永远无法回答莫贝和<FONT face="Times New Roman">Elvis, Beetles</FONT>谁更伟大一样。<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">我对他们都很欣赏,</FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00" face="Times New Roman">for different reasons</FONT>。但就目前为止,他们还都有提升的空间,和亚普还有一定的差距。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">3 </FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">进</FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman">07worlds</FONT>前三需要<FONT face="Times New Roman">230+</FONT></FONT>的成绩,套用句老话,<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">要想夺牌,‘</FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman">quad</FONT>不是万能的,但没有<FONT face="Times New Roman">quad</FONT></FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">是万万不能的’</FONT>。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">4 </FONT>我说的盲目上四是指一线尾,二线头,以及一些正在上升状态的新秀这种势头比较强烈,世青赛上<FONT face="Times New Roman">jumper</FONT>比较多,真正的<FONT face="Times New Roman">skater</FONT>比较少,这有悖于新规则出台的初衷,正像前面一位朋友指出的,其实<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00" face="Times New Roman">COP</FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">是鼓励运动员全面发展的,跳跃只是其中的一部分,绝非全部,它应该为艺术表现力服务</FONT>,只是这种初衷被某些教练曲解了。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">5 </FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">开始怀念<FONT face="Times New Roman">Jeff</FONT></FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">了,希望他早日康复</FONT>,重回赛场。但他退出大奖赛的决定是对的,毕竟身体是革命的本钱。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">6 </FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">我对小朱的期望</FONT>只有一个<FONT face="Times New Roman">: <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">be yourself, because you’re unique</FONT>. </FONT></P>
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纳尼亚花蜜
发表于 2006-11-21 12:48:00
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>adria</I>在2006-11-20 21:44:30的发言:</B><BR>
<P>我还素希望前三是小兰,小猪,jeff,weir中的任意3个..(不是我不算上sandhu,实在是...),还有,不知道俄罗斯会不会力捧他们那个跳俩4sal的多柏林...也难说啊</P></DIV>
<P>这个前三是举双手赞成的~~~~sandhu的话,其实他和现在的weir有一拼(或者说weir和他有一拼)
<P>dobrin的俩4s好可怕,虽然跳跃姿势有够难看,动作姿态也不好看,表演像个粗糙无神版的plushy,但是总算有4周,而且长得还成(我在说什么呀),也希望他有好成绩</P>
adria
发表于 2006-11-21 13:41:00
<P>多柏林小朋友要是这两年稳定,2010前肯定会被捧的...毕竟素俄罗斯的啊</P>
ifoacn
发表于 2006-11-22 18:01:00
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">“我对小朱的期望</FONT>只有一个<FONT face="Times New Roman">: <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">be yourself, because you’re unique”</FONT></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Times New Roman">I agree with you!</FONT></P>
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Yvonne
发表于 2006-11-23 14:54:00
<P>我已在FTP里上传了此次法国站Brian的SP,LP和fluff的高清晰版。(外国某电视台的,不是日本的)</P>
<P>fluff里有Brian练击剑的镜头,暴帅暴帅。还有他谈新编舞Kurt Browning,可惜法文我是一句也听不懂。</P>
<P>文件都在<STRONG>2006 TEB/Men</STRONG>之下。</P>
emilieliu
发表于 2006-11-24 07:42:00
fs2046说的莫贝是指的谁?不会是moby吗?moby跟beatles和elvis有什么联系啊?不好意思,才疏学浅,真不明白这句话的含义。<br>
最近发现yagudin和老太太带的好多人现在都不跟他们了,他们两现在还带着谁啊?今年老太太上镜率挺低的啊,感觉<br>
yuhuo
发表于 2006-11-24 13:03:00
<P>我也迷<FONT size=2>Brian Joubert</FONT>,王子啊.暂不说冰滑的怎么样,就是这样一帅哥放在眼前,也是口水满地,再加上冰上的风姿,由不得不爱.</P>
fs2046
发表于 2006-11-25 07:49:00
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>emilieliu</I>在2006-11-24 7:42:23的发言:</B><BR>fs2046说的莫贝是指的谁?不会是moby吗?moby跟beatles和elvis有什么联系啊?不好意思,才疏学浅,真不明白这句话的?濉?lt;br><BR>最近发现yagudin和老太太带的好多人现在都不跟他们了,他们两现在还带着谁啊?今年老太太上镜率挺低的啊,感觉<BR><BR></DIV>
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<P ><FONT size=3>莫贝<FONT face="Times New Roman">=</FONT>莫扎特<FONT face="Times New Roman">+</FONT>贝多芬,</FONT><FONT size=3>我的意思是说Lambiel和Joubert的风格差得比较远,互相比较是不公平的,也不会有结果。</P>
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<P ><FONT face="Times New Roman">Griazev</FONT>今年的自由滑是<FONT face="Times New Roman">Tarasova</FONT>编的,她基本处在半隐退状态,现在不怎么带学生了,好像只负责几个冰舞和双人的编舞。<FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></P>
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<P ><FONT face="Times New Roman">Yagudin </FONT>本来就没当教练,应该今年还有和<FONT face="Times New Roman">SOI</FONT>续约,多久就不知道了。</P>
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fs2046
发表于 2006-11-25 07:52:00
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>COR</STRONG></FONT>刚刚结束的<STRONG>男单短节目</STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>Brian</STRONG></FONT>发挥出色,<STRONG>暂时</STRONG>以微小优势领先<FONT face="Times New Roman">Johnny Weir</FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman">Emanuel Sandhu</FONT>,<STRONG>排名第一</STRONG>。<STRONG>他在比赛中做出了</STRONG><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">4t-3t, 3a (step out), 3f, </FONT>三个<FONT face="Times New Roman">4</FONT>级旋转和两个<FONT face="Times New Roman">3</FONT></STRONG></FONT><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><STRONG>级步伐</STRONG>。</FONT>在此要恭喜前三名,都是我很欣赏的选手,也希望<FONT face="Times New Roman">Dobrin</FONT>在明天的比赛里奋起直追。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt">开心之余说点美中不足,也许是连续作战的疲劳造成的,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>今天的跳跃出现了两次小失误,心态上也少了上一站<FONT face="Times New Roman">’Joubert</FONT>一出,谁与争锋<FONT face="Times New Roman">’</FONT>的霸气。自由滑<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>的强项,希望他可以振作精神,再下一城,拿下本赛季自己的第三项冠军头衔。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt">今年夏天他在接受法国媒体采访时曾经表示,<STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">希望以</FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman">06</FONT>世锦赛为转折,从新赛季开始,努力包揽所有比赛的<FONT face="Times New Roman">title</FONT>,一直到<FONT face="Times New Roman">2010</FONT></FONT></STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><STRONG>年冬奥会</STRONG>。</FONT>看来他正在用实际行动兑现这个伟大的理想。四年时间对花滑选手可能意味着运动生涯的全部,很多事情都可能发生,很多事情都可能改变。不管发生什么,希望他可以执著坚定地朝自己的目标走下去,直到终点。</P>
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fs2046
发表于 2006-11-25 07:57:00
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">谢谢Yvonne提供的爆帅爆帅的小朱,下面的消息有谈及你们家小威的,算回礼了。今天他的表现不错,看来‘本土作战’就是不一样哈。</FONT></P></st1:place></st1:country-region></FONT>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region>’s Brian <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f7f709">Joubert</FONT> took the Men’s Short Program. Johnny Weir (USA) was second and Emanuel Sandhu (CAN) came in third. <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Joubert’s dynamic routine to the James Bond soundtrack of “Die Another Day” included a quadruple-triple toeloop combination, a triple flip and fast footwork. He also was awarded a level four for all his three spins, but he stepped out of his triple Axel. The current World silver medalist received 77.70 points (41.50 element score/36.20 program component score). “At the 2005 World Championships (in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>) I finished second, and that’s not a good memory, but this is forgotten now. What I like here is the audience. They’re really super, and even at the World Championships it was a pleasure to skate in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>. So I like coming here”, the Frenchman told the post-event press conference. “I’m quite disappointed about my triple Axel, because this jump has becoming better and better for me. It was a little error, and that’s a shame, because it costs a lot of points in the short program, and I would have preferred to avoid this mistake. Well, I’ll have to do it (the Axel) tomorrow.” <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Performing to “King of Chess” by Maxime Rodriguez,<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #bbbbbb"> <STRONG>Weir </STRONG></FONT>nailed a triple Axel, triple Lutz-triple toeloop combination and a triple flip. He showed fast spins, earning a level four for the flying sit spin and a level three for the change foot sit spin and the combination spin to pick up 75.10 points (39.40/35.70). “My performance here was an improvement from Skate Canada and Campell’s Cup, the first event. I hope to continue to improve every competition and always to make it better. My score wasn’t better than at Skate Canada, but I felt a lot more comfortable skating here. I’ve trained harder for this event than I had for Skate Canada, and I felt more prepared”, Weir explained.<o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffcc00">Sandhu </FONT></STRONG>produced a triple flip-triple toeloop combination and a triple Lutz but fell on his triple Axel. However, the Canadian showed good spins and footwork. His flying sit and change foot sit spin was rated a level four and both his step sequences got a level three. “It was just a silly little accident. I was gliding backwards for like four meters I don’t know why I had to fall. I just caught an edge and I think and I slipped”, Sandhu said, referring to the mistake. “We’ll ignore that for tomorrow. My goal for this season would be to win my National title back and get a medal at Worlds or win”, he added when asked about his goals.</FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
丽丽熊
发表于 2006-11-25 14:20:00
<P>小猪的霸气对他来说还是很重要的!</P>
<P>不光给他自己勇气和信心,也给其他选手压力!</P>
<P>COR的sp还是有点松劲了,不过好在问题不大,且法国站的表现深入裁判心中,所以得分还是很高!</P>
<P>lp真的要加油了,稳定的表现不但能带来高分,还能深深的影响裁判在后面总决赛及世锦赛的打分!尤其是pcs!</P>
<P>到时候和小兰的对决才更有看头^_^</P>
loooop
发表于 2006-11-25 17:29:00
看来口气都不小嘛~~~
fs2046
发表于 2006-11-26 05:18:00
<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Yeah baby, you did it! <STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Brian</FONT></STRONG></FONT><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">果然不负众望,在刚刚结束的<FONT face="Times New Roman">CoR men’s FS</FONT></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">比赛中</FONT></STRONG>,他真的像自己在法国站后许诺的那样,<STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">在自由滑比赛中使用了</FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman">3</FONT>个<FONT face="Times New Roman">4</FONT></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">周,</FONT></STRONG>其中一个是<FONT face="Times New Roman">4t-2t</FONT>连跳,另两个是<FONT face="Times New Roman">4s</FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman">4t</FONT>,同时他还成功地完成了一个<FONT face="Times New Roman">3a</FONT>和其他四种三周跳,<STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">以</FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman">160.13</FONT>的本赛季自由滑最高分和新的个人最好成绩将其他对手抛离<FONT face="Times New Roman">40</FONT>分之巨,并直逼小普保持的<FONT face="Times New Roman">167.67</FONT>的世界纪录。</FONT></STRONG></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt">这是继冬奥会<FONT face="Times New Roman">Plushenko</FONT>取得的压倒性胜利以来男单比赛首次出现如此悬殊的比分差距。<FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT>值得一提的是,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Brian</FONT>在一直以来被冰迷们视为其诟病的<STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">PCS</FONT>方面有了长足进步,取得了<FONT face="Times New Roman">77.40</FONT></STRONG><STRONG>的高分,居全场之冠</STRONG>。这样,<STRONG>他以</STRONG><STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"><FONT face="Times New Roman">237.83</FONT>的总成绩刷新了</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">Oda</FONT>在九月</STRONG><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">Skate America</FONT>上创造的<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">新赛季总分纪录</FONT>,并以两站分站赛冠军的身份继小雷后成为获得总决赛入场卷的男单第二人</STRONG>。</P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt">而接下来举行的大奖赛分站赛压轴好戏<FONT face="Times New Roman">-<STRONG>NHK</STRONG></FONT><STRONG>杯,将决定剩下的四个GPF席位的归属</STRONG>。鉴于<STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">Lambiel</FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman">Oda</FONT></STRONG>的水平明显高出其它对手,冠亚军将肯定在他们中间产生,无论排序如何,他们<STRONG>将携手晋级</STRONG>。如不出意外,<FONT face="Times New Roman">Takahashi</FONT>将会获得第三。这样,在同样有一银一铜在手的<FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>Preaubert</STRONG></FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman">Weir</FONT>之间,前者由于总成绩高而<STRONG>晋级几成定局</STRONG>。<STRONG>最后一个名额将在</STRONG><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman">Weir</FONT>和<FONT face="Times New Roman">Takahashi</FONT></STRONG><STRONG>之间产生。</STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></P>
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<P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG>小普在最近的采访中已经明确表示:下个赛季他会回来。</STRONG>这就意味着<STRONG>对于</STRONG>以小兰为首的这批<STRONG>男单新一代中坚力量</STRONG>而言,<FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>07</STRONG></FONT><STRONG>世锦赛将是他们树立信心和在冰坛的地位形象的最佳时机和最后的战场。</STRONG>特别是对于小朱同学,这真的是他距离自己世界冠军梦想最近的一次机会了。相信有三连冠这样好的开始,他的<FONT face="Times New Roman">07</FONT>年将会是前途光明的。继续努力吧!</P>
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想见怀恋_100
发表于 2006-11-26 15:26:00
Joubert这次COR完成两种四周,是今年张民之后第二个完成两种四周的男选手。
antony1986jl
发表于 2006-11-26 16:16:00
<P>我真的希望小猪能拿下明年的世锦赛!!我期盼他那世界冠军由三年了,今年真的是机会难得,千万不能再让我们失望了呀</P>
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