好东西：世锦赛历史上的6。0分总览

确实，我所看到的申雪她们一套节目里的跳跃都是1个3toe和2个2axel，她们世锦赛自由滑会采用第2个3toe的说法我是听CCTV转播的时候那个男解说顾问说的。当时T&M刚比完，他在比较她们和S&Z的难度的时候，S&Z和她们一样会采用2个3周跳，但是都是3toe，而T&M是1个3toe和1个3sal，难度更大，类型更丰富。我以为她们会在比赛里把原来的第2个2axel换成3toe，不过最后还是做的2axel。
我觉得S&Z的2axel和3toe的连续跳与T&M的3toe－2toe连跳难度相当。

对对对，我想起来了，那个顾问是这么说的，不过我对那个顾问印象很不好，我没有下TM的那套节目，比赛的时候也没看全，我没看到单跳后内三周，所以不敢肯定他说的对不对。但是申赵的动作已经定型了，而且那个大一字的两周半是个在整套节目中很有特色的动作，不仅是技术上，艺术上也是展现音乐的一个亮点，所以应该是不会换的，如果临时换，会破坏整套节目的完整性，所以我敢肯定那个顾问是记错了，赛前绝对不会换动作的。2axel和3toe,3toe-2toe,我还是觉得第一个难度更大一些。尤其是把3toe放在后面作。

以下是引用lrf在2003-4-26 23:29:37的发言：
新的记分方式实行以来，有一种6。0分泛滥的趋势，如果在这样的背景下，我觉得申雪她们的6。0是不算太过分的。T&M的分数都已经打到5。8－5。9了啊。我估计杨家声是给了她们6。0的，因为赛后有记者问他这个问题，他说总共有4个6。0分，就算他打了6。0也不是他一个人打的，这句话隐含的意思我想是他打了6。0分吧。
但是如果和以前的打分比起来，很抱歉，我只能说申雪她们这样的表现应该是得不到6。0分的，她们在技术上有所保留，第2个SBS3toe被拿掉了，整体难度不如T&M，虽然完成的非常好，但我想如果是老的打分方式的话，技术5。8表演5。9比较合适。

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Sorry lrf but I have to disagree that "the overall technical difficulty of S/Z's program was not equal to T/M's program". Here are some comparisons between these 2 teams:

Jumps: T/M planned SBS 3salchow, 3toe-2toe; S/Z planned SBS 2axel steps 3toe, 2axel; T/M had more difficulties here but M singled 2toe while S/Z executed 3 jumps well.

Throws and twist: they both completed throw 3salchow. throw 3loop and 3twist, but for the height & coverage, T/M just couldn't compare to S/Z.     

Lifts: T/M's lifts were good but pretty easy---they only did basic lifts with T rarely changed her positions. S/Z's lifts were much more difficult with either quick revolutions or changing positions.

Step sequences: T/M's were simple and slow; S/Z's were playful with good speed.

Overall speed: Need I say more? T/M began their performance with OK speed and became slower and slower during the program while S/Z with incredible speed and maintain it until the last second of the program.

I think people shouldn't judge the difficulty of a program only by how many triple or quad jumps being planned, otherwise, Timothy Goebel would become a king on ice because he usually plans(and will continue doing it) more quads than anyone else.

Sorry again if my words are rude or off-topic.




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我想你曲解了Lrf的意思，他并不是不考虑动作质量和整体因素，所有的人都知道申赵的碾转和抛跳是世界最好的，我们只是在对比两个人主要的技术动作难度。你说的这些大家都明白，我想是你误解了别人，而不是别人误解了花样滑冰。

DSC，我实在是没有说申雪她们的难度比T&M低的意思，你说的那些我都同意，我只是引用那个男解说员的话而已，而且他也只是比较了2对选手跳跃的难度。