2004年世界花样滑冰大奖赛加拿大站专栏

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SZ 暂时领先，不过只比加拿大的Valerie MARCOUX / Craig BUNTIN多2分，看来表现一般，他们也似乎对自己不太满意，不过分倒不低。PT有机会了。

1 Xue SHEN / Hongbo ZHAO CHN 66.48 34.40 32.08 8.15 8.00 7.80 8.00 8.15 0.00 #6 2 Valerie MARCOUX / Craig BUNTIN CAN 64.02 35.98 28.04 6.95 6.85 7.25 6.85 7.15 0.00 #4 S&Z, many small mistakes, no quality tonight, according to secret source, should have been behind both Canadians according to SS : poor unison in spins, 2feet for him on the pair spin, weak lift.

结果正如我们期望的那样，SZ第一，PT第二。不过领先加拿大的MB只一点点哦！

1 Xue SHEN / Hongbo ZHAO CHN 66.48 34.40 32.08 8.15 8.00 7.80 8.00 8.15 0.00 #6 2 Qing PANG / Jian TONG CHN 64.54 34.02 30.52 7.80 7.35 7.60 7.55 7.85 0.00 #10 3 Valerie MARCOUX / Craig BUNTIN CAN 64.02 35.98 28.04 6.95 6.85 7.25 6.85 7.15 0.00 #4 4 Anabelle LANGLOIS / Patrice ARCHETTO CAN 57.38 31.66 26.72 6.85 6.45 6.60 6.60 6.90 1.00 #2 5 Dorota ZAGORSKA / Mariusz SIUDEK POL 55.96 29.20 26.76 7.00 6.65 6.35 6.75 6.70 0.00 #9 6 Viktoria BORZENKOVA / Andrei CHUVILAEV RUS 47.92 29.32 18.60 5.10 4.45 4.55 4.60 4.55 0.00 #5 7 Milica BROZOVIC / Vladimir FUTAS SVK 44.74 27.34 17.40 4.35 4.10 4.10 4.60 4.60 0.00 #7 8 Brittany VISE / Nicholas KOLE USA 44.12 26.32 17.80 4.70 4.25 4.25 4.50 4.55 0.00 #8 9 Pascale BERGERON / Robert DAVISON CAN 43.40 27.04 17.36 4.35 4.30 4.45 4.25 4.35 1.00 #1 10 Nicole NOENNIG / Matthias BLEYER GER 38.32 23.80 15.52 3.85 3.70 3.85 4.15 3.85 1.00 #3

又是旋转出现错误庞佟的技术分也不高啊，估计也是出了差错。

不过他们的艺术分都还可以的。

冰舞CD结果

Pl.	Name	Nation	TSS =	TES +		TCS +	SS	TI	PF	IN	Deduction -	StN.
1	Albena DENKOVA / Maxim STAVISKI	BUL	41.05	17.88		23.17	7.75	7.70	7.75	7.70	0.00	#7
2	Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER	FRA	39.37	17.50		21.87	7.40	7.20	7.25	7.35	0.00	#11
3	Marie-France DUBREUIL / Patrice LAUZON	CAN	39.35	17.08		22.27	7.45	7.30	7.50	7.50	0.00	#10
4	Galit CHAIT / Sergei SAKHNOVSKI	ISR	38.58	16.84		21.74	7.35	7.10	7.40	7.15	0.00	#8
5	Megan WING / Aaron LOWE	CAN	35.35	16.20		19.15	6.40	6.35	6.40	6.40	0.00	#3
6	Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI	RUS	31.72	14.42		17.30	5.90	5.60	5.85	5.75	0.00	#9
7	Christina BEIER / William BEIER	GER	31.48	15.04		16.44	5.55	5.40	5.50	5.50	0.00	#12
8	Martine PATENAUDE / Pascal DENIS	CAN	28.75	14.40		14.35	4.95	4.65	4.85	4.70	0.00	#4
9	Loren GALLER-RABINOWITZ / David MITCHELL	USA	28.67	13.98		1

1	Jeffrey BUTTLE	CAN	72.15	35.40		36.75	7.20	7.25	7.30	7.45	7.55	0.00	#3
2	Ben FERREIRA	CAN	67.38	36.78		30.60	6.15	5.70	6.30	6.15	6.30	0.00	#7
3	Stefan LINDEMANN	GER	63.45	33.10		30.35	6.30	5.85	5.90	6.15	6.15	0.00	#9
4	Kevin VAN DER PERREN	BEL	62.24	31.94		30.30	6.25	5.80	6.00	5.95	6.30	0.00	#8
5	Takeshi HONDA	JPN	61.09	31.24		30.85	6.55	5.90	5.95	6.20	6.25	1.00	#6
6	Ryan JAHNKE	USA	60.75	30.70		30.05	6.10	5.75	6.15	5.95	6.10	0.00	#1
7	Emanuel SANDHU	CAN	60.17	25.62		34.55	7.05	6.55	6.90	6.95	7.10	0.00	#2
8	Frederic DAMBIER	FRA	54.67	26.62		30.05	6.25	5.70	5.90	6.00	6.20	2.00	#5
9	Xiaodong MA	CHN	50.69	29.04		22.65	5.05	4.30	4.45	4.40	4.45

我看了美国站的回放. 其它先不说.

就是解说真是恶心, 明明完成的不是很好, 很勉强的,她偏要说完成的很出色, 稳稳当当. 不知道她是怎么想的.

若大的中国就找不到一个称职的解说. 或者干脆不要说, 就等选手表演之后再评论, 弄的我都不想看了. 解说太恶心.

说句老实话，周数的确是比较难分辨，又不是专业的裁判，即使是专业的裁判也不可能每个动作都能分别的很清楚，当然，这只是偶然情况！

我们必须看到的是，陈小姐对跳跃的类型还是掌握的很好，据我所知，还有一部分冰迷，尤其是初次接触的朋友，对于跳跃的类型不是很清楚，再说美国站的水平本就不高，她的这种解说方式，真好可以然一部分朋友了解一些基本知识，这应该是她的功劳哦！

大家都别再讨论解说了，不管怎样花样滑冰运动在中国的宣传力度一直在加大，有进步总是好的，咱还是把时间多用来关注下选手的比赛吧，毕竟这是正题。

第二个分数不错，是这个帮他们排在了第一和第二位，只是技术分什么会第了呢？

估计还是编排没能适应新规则！！！

赵宏博好像是托举失误

There was a scary moment when Zhao seemed to bobble the Axel lasso lift - the same lift that resulted in the horrific fall of Russian skater Tatiana Totmianina at Skate America. "I made a mistake and maybe the reason was the accident at Skate America," Zhao said. "I was a little bit scared."

本田则是四周跳摔倒，3loop双足落冰

"I think I skated well overall," said Honda, who turned in a solid performance except for the botched landing on his quad. "I even felt like quitting but I've decided to live with the pain. Now that I came back, I want to return to where I used to be," the two-time world bronze medalist said of the nagging injury that forced him off the ice for about five months.

Buttle虽然没跳四周跳，但也没有失误。

Sandhu四周跳做成了两周，没有连跳。好像步法也摔了？

Dambier的四周跳和3loop都摔了

Kevin VAN DER PERREN, 3a extra turn 3t, 3l, 2a

Sandhu和Buttle

明天双人自由滑出场顺序

StN.	Name	Nat.	Current Rank	Points
	Warm-Up Group 1
1	Nicole NOENNIG / Matthias BLEYER	GER	10	38.32
2	Brittany VISE / Nicholas KOLE	USA	8	44.12
3	Pascale BERGERON / Robert DAVISON	CAN	9	43.40
	Warm-Up Group 2
4	Milica BROZOVIC / Vladimir FUTAS	SVK	7	44.74
5	Dorota ZAGORSKA / Mariusz SIUDEK	POL	5	55.96
6	Viktoria BORZENKOVA / Andrei CHUVILAEV	RUS	6	47.92
	Warm-Up Group 3
7	Anabelle LANGLOIS / Patrice ARCHETTO	CAN	4	57.38
8	Valerie MARCOUX / Craig BUNTIN	CAN	3	64.02
9	Qing PANG / Jian TONG	CHN	2	64.54
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hybi 发表于 2004-10-29 14:54:00 | 显示全部楼层 this is reports on GSF: Thanks so much! As usual, the skaters are shown in the order they skated and the placements are the placements at the time they skated. Marks are shown as Tech, Components and total CAN Bergeron / Davison Start 1 Place 1 Notes both in black / music is familiar drums / sbs 3t she fell / thr 3l she was low in the knee on landing but clean / nice lift with straddle handhold & change of hands / sbs spins were nice & in sync / bids with flip over in her pos / pair spin had very good speed & difficult pos - crouch facing each other / ice coverage wasn't great, they really didnt get down to this end of the ice except for the death spiral / t 27.04 c 17.36 tot 43.40 ded 1.0 1st CAN Langlois / Archetto Start 2 Place 1 Notes both in black / romeo & juliet /thr 3l she fell forward on stomach / sbs jumps perfect timing & clean but didnt se takeoff not sure if toe or sal / 2 tw is good but not spectacular / sbs spins have very nice pos & different than usual very good sync / spirals are nice with good flow & not the standard / lift is excellent to one hand with pos changes & flip out / nice pair spin to end / good program nicely choreographed with good ice coverage & placement of elements / t 31.66 c 26.72 tot 57.38 GER Noennig / Bleyer Start 3 Place 3 Notes shiny yellow with black & him in the reverse / sbs 3t him clean she popped / good 2tw / thr 3s she had it then caught blade & went down / sbs spins were in and out of sync good pos & close together though / O spirals hae some inventive pos / lift goes upand down very nice but no change of hands or pos / bids is a bit bouncy & skiddy but they do it / pair spin is ok with good sped & some unique pos / t 23.80 c 15.52 tot 38.32 ded CAN Marcoux / Buntin Start 4 Place 1 Notes her in purple him in black with purple trim both with silver trim / music is fever & jump, jive & wail / some nice chor to set the mood / sbs 3t are perfect close, sync & all / lift to one hand with change of pos to helicopter out / spiral seq is good / and now in to the faster stuff and fly cam sit cam sit holding toe at side close & in sync / very nice 2tw / very good sapir spin fast with good pos / nested spread eagles into thr 3l into bids that's very good / great program & skate - fast & smooth - skated like champions / t 35.98 c 28.04 tot 64.02 1st RUS Borzenkova / Chuvilaev Start 5 Place 3 Notes music is 'snow storm / both in red tops with white star & silver h8im in grey pants - not attractive at all / thr 3l is good / sbs 3t she's clean he stumbles out / 2t has no height / lift is a tiny bit unsteady going up changes pos to her upside down but always 2 hands / they've slowed to a crawl during the spirals and into the bids / pair spin is awkward and they finish after the music / t 29.32 c 18.60 tot 47.92 3rd CHN Shen / Zhao Start 6 Place 1 Notes her in peach with silver trim him in black pants and shirt shading from beige to grey / nice chor to set mood / sbs 3t bit far apart for them but in sync & clean/ nest spread eagles into lift with multi rot and helicopter but bit jerky by him into nested spread eagles / thr 3l huge as usual / sbs spins are close & in sync with good pos / gerat 2tw into spread eagles nice chor / pair spin changes with music very nicely / bids with flip from upright to down / music is clair de lune / t 34.40 c 32.08 tot 66.48 SVK Brozovic / Futas Start 7 Place 5 Notes Caravan of light - david arkenstone / dark brown & gold egyptian styling / 2tw is good / sbs 3t timing a bit off and she heavily 2ft / lift to bent leg star no hand changes simple exit / thr 3f?? heavily 2ft / sbs spins have quite good unision and ok pos / spirals ok into bids with 2rev / pair spin is pretty standard but quite good / they didnt' really do anything wrong but it felt like a really long program -- really blah/ maybe the monotonous tone of the music?? don't know / t 27.34 c 17.40 tot 44.74 5th USA Vise /

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hybi 发表于 2004-10-29 15:01:00 | 显示全部楼层 It seemed P/T's SP have benn better received  musically. Shen/zhao and P/T had their old problem on lift, SBS jumps. I think they must improve them before Olympic to be on top.

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gtxys 发表于 2004-10-29 15:37:00 | 显示全部楼层 原谅我再说一句,陈滢压根就不是自己分辨跳跃种类,她是直接抄人家美国的解说,大家要是注意的话,应该可以偶尔听到CCTV把美国的解说的声音放出来!不是说她照着说不好不对,问题是她要抄的水平高点也行啊,老早就拿到了节目,她英文水平也很了得,怎么就不能认真地听清楚人家说什么,自己再说呢!一个跳跃三四种讲法,说明她自己根本就不懂每种跳跃是怎么回事!国家队的运动员听着都要笑死了!这不仅是误导,还是对观众的不负责任!这种丢人到家!!

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鱼类 发表于 2004-10-29 15:45:00 | 显示全部楼层 是有这样的嫌疑，陈小姐是把ABC的解说给翻译过来的，而不是她自己真看得懂（最明显的就是她解说一场比赛居然把一种跳翻译成三四种说法，而且显然她还不是每句都翻译了，也有自己的发挥）。中央台这次转播有时还把弗来明私下聊天和唱歌的声音都给放出来了。当然她这样做也可以说明她很努力或者认真，只是错误实在太多了，起到反效果。希望她以后改进。真要是比较专业的同步解说的话我们当然也可以接受的~~ 不过关于解说的问题我们还是到此为止吧，实在想谈就在大家谈里另开个贴子算了 [em45][em45]

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小公主 发表于 2004-10-29 17:22:00 | 显示全部楼层 美国队的图片 Team USA celebrating Brittany Vise's 17th birthday — (L-R): David Mitchell, Loren Galler-Rabinowitz, Vise, Ryan Jahnke, Nick Kole 美国这站没有派女单参加。不知原因是什么。 另外祝贺两对中国选手！ 希望他们继续保持优势！

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Icarus 发表于 2004-10-29 18:31:00 | 显示全部楼层 祝贺Buttle短节目后排在第一名,希望他的好状态能保持到最后,在中国站也能取得好成绩.我一直都很喜欢他的风格,加油啊!同样也祝贺我们的两对选手,好样的!

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this is reports on GSF:

Thanks so much! As usual, the skaters are shown in the order they skated and the placements are the placements at the time they skated. Marks are shown as Tech, Components and total CAN Bergeron / Davison Start 1 Place 1 Notes both in black / music is familiar drums / sbs 3t she fell / thr 3l she was low in the knee on landing but clean / nice lift with straddle handhold & change of hands / sbs spins were nice & in sync / bids with flip over in her pos / pair spin had very good speed & difficult pos - crouch facing each other / ice coverage wasn't great, they really didnt get down to this end of the ice except for the death spiral / t 27.04 c 17.36 tot 43.40 ded 1.0 1st CAN Langlois / Archetto Start 2 Place 1 Notes both in black / romeo & juliet /thr 3l she fell forward on stomach / sbs jumps perfect timing & clean but didnt se takeoff not sure if toe or sal / 2 tw is good but not spectacular / sbs spins have very nice pos & different than usual very good sync / spirals are nice with good flow & not the standard / lift is excellent to one hand with pos changes & flip out / nice pair spin to end / good program nicely choreographed with good ice coverage & placement of elements / t 31.66 c 26.72 tot 57.38 GER Noennig / Bleyer Start 3 Place 3 Notes shiny yellow with black & him in the reverse / sbs 3t him clean she popped / good 2tw / thr 3s she had it then caught blade & went down / sbs spins were in and out of sync good pos & close together though / O spirals hae some inventive pos / lift goes upand down very nice but no change of hands or pos / bids is a bit bouncy & skiddy but they do it / pair spin is ok with good sped & some unique pos / t 23.80 c 15.52 tot 38.32 ded CAN Marcoux / Buntin Start 4 Place 1 Notes her in purple him in black with purple trim both with silver trim / music is fever & jump, jive & wail / some nice chor to set the mood / sbs 3t are perfect close, sync & all / lift to one hand with change of pos to helicopter out / spiral seq is good / and now in to the faster stuff and fly cam sit cam sit holding toe at side close & in sync / very nice 2tw / very good sapir spin fast with good pos / nested spread eagles into thr 3l into bids that's very good / great program & skate - fast & smooth - skated like champions / t 35.98 c 28.04 tot 64.02 1st RUS Borzenkova / Chuvilaev Start 5 Place 3 Notes music is 'snow storm / both in red tops with white star & silver h8im in grey pants - not attractive at all / thr 3l is good / sbs 3t she's clean he stumbles out / 2t has no height / lift is a tiny bit unsteady going up changes pos to her upside down but always 2 hands / they've slowed to a crawl during the spirals and into the bids / pair spin is awkward and they finish after the music / t 29.32 c 18.60 tot 47.92 3rd CHN Shen / Zhao Start 6 Place 1 Notes her in peach with silver trim him in black pants and shirt shading from beige to grey / nice chor to set mood / sbs 3t bit far apart for them but in sync & clean/ nest spread eagles into lift with multi rot and helicopter but bit jerky by him into nested spread eagles / thr 3l huge as usual / sbs spins are close & in sync with good pos / gerat 2tw into spread eagles nice chor / pair spin changes with music very nicely / bids with flip from upright to down / music is clair de lune / t 34.40 c 32.08 tot 66.48 SVK Brozovic / Futas Start 7 Place 5 Notes Caravan of light - david arkenstone / dark brown & gold egyptian styling / 2tw is good / sbs 3t timing a bit off and she heavily 2ft / lift to bent leg star no hand changes simple exit / thr 3f?? heavily 2ft / sbs spins have quite good unision and ok pos / spirals ok into bids with 2rev / pair spin is pretty standard but quite good / they didnt' really do anything wrong but it felt like a really long program -- really blah/ maybe the monotonous tone of the music?? don't know / t 27.34 c 17.40 tot 44.74 5th USA Vise /

It seemed P/T's SP have benn better received  musically. Shen/zhao and P/T had their old problem on lift, SBS jumps. I think they must improve them before Olympic to be on top.

原谅我再说一句,陈滢压根就不是自己分辨跳跃种类,她是直接抄人家美国的解说,大家要是注意的话,应该可以偶尔听到CCTV把美国的解说的声音放出来!不是说她照着说不好不对,问题是她要抄的水平高点也行啊,老早就拿到了节目,她英文水平也很了得,怎么就不能认真地听清楚人家说什么,自己再说呢!一个跳跃三四种讲法,说明她自己根本就不懂每种跳跃是怎么回事!国家队的运动员听着都要笑死了!这不仅是误导,还是对观众的不负责任!这种丢人到家!!

是有这样的嫌疑，陈小姐是把ABC的解说给翻译过来的，而不是她自己真看得懂（最明显的就是她解说一场比赛居然把一种跳翻译成三四种说法，而且显然她还不是每句都翻译了，也有自己的发挥）。中央台这次转播有时还把弗来明私下聊天和唱歌的声音都给放出来了。当然她这样做也可以说明她很努力或者认真，只是错误实在太多了，起到反效果。希望她以后改进。真要是比较专业的同步解说的话我们当然也可以接受的~~

不过关于解说的问题我们还是到此为止吧，实在想谈就在大家谈里另开个贴子算了

[em45][em45]

美国队的图片

Team USA celebrating Brittany Vise's 17th birthday — (L-R): David Mitchell, Loren Galler-Rabinowitz, Vise, Ryan Jahnke, Nick Kole

美国这站没有派女单参加。不知原因是什么。

另外祝贺两对中国选手！

希望他们继续保持优势！

祝贺Buttle短节目后排在第一名,希望他的好状态能保持到最后,在中国站也能取得好成绩.我一直都很喜欢他的风格,加油啊!同样也祝贺我们的两对选手,好样的!