汤昊 发表于 2008-10-21 07:14:12

来迟了,辛苦FS2046美女做的一切前期报道,真心期待三位的全新亮相.

MJ也有尊严 发表于 2008-10-21 15:51:04

原帖由 Penny 于 2008-10-17 11:18 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
很期待哦!自从98年BK的大河之舞之后,很久没有看到冰上踢踏舞了。
呵~~B/A是美式踢踏舞,和B/K的爱尔兰踢踏舞还是有区别的,这个OD倒是很容易被拿去和G/P的“Steppin Out”比较,当然了那个也是自由舞。

fs2046 发表于 2008-10-23 10:20:54

谢谢大家的支持。

Wynne&Druar在90年的自由舞也是美式踢踏,参考一下。

http://www.youtube.com/v/J3YuTF7ewKs&Ks&hl=en&fs=1

既然想见提到了G/P,不知大家看过这段8卦节目没有,著名的俄罗斯花滑圈的恩怨情仇,Grishuk-Zhulin-Usova-Platov Affair :

http://www.youtube.com/v/ITSSRVVkeuc&hl=en&fs=1


fs2046 发表于 2008-10-23 10:34:14

随着美国站的临近,相关报道也渐渐增多,我会尽力把其中比较好的内容和喜欢贝雷的朋友分享的。

首先是今日美国对BA的报道,大部分内容大家都知道了。

他们的大幅训练照片刊登在体育版头条,这对冷门的花滑运动是非常罕见的。两人的神情都非常严肃,即将来临的赛季等待他们的将是怎样的结果呢?

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/fs2046/TanBenUSAToday.jpg


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-10-20-belbin-agosto_N.htm

Belbin, Agosto dance to a new tune after coaching switch

By Janice Lloyd, USA TODAY


When U.S. ice dancers Tanith Belbin and Ben Agosto step onto the rink at Skate America on Friday, they know the figure skating world will be watching.
After finishing fourth at the world championships last March, a result that Agosto described as a "slap in the face," the duo left behind its longtime coaches in Detroit for a new home near Philadelphia. What IceWorks in Aston, Pa., held for them was an opportunity to train with married Russian coaches Natalia Linichuk and Gennadi Karponosov, Olympic champions whose skaters have dominated Olympic and world competitions.

"I think by the end of the year and going into world championships we'll have programs that if skated well are unbeatable," Belbin said. "Skate America will be the first step."

Belbin and Agosto's silver medal at the 2006 Turin Games set them on a path to become the best U.S. ice dancers in history. They enter this season shooting for a record sixth U.S. championship and the first gold medal for the USA at worlds.

"People will want to see what we've been able to achieve with these new coaches," Belbin said. "They have a reputation for training champions and a lot of people are imagining that they must have this magic wand."

Ice dancing is the only discipline of the four in skating that still requires compulsories in which all skaters repeat the same skill set.

Belbin had a rare fall in compulsories at worlds last year during their Tango. They went into the original dance in fifth place after coming into the event as favorites. World champions Isabelle Delobel and Olivier Schoenfelder of France are scheduled to compete at Skate America.

Belbin said this year their compulsories are better. "What we've learned is amazing," she said. "I see it coming through our skating little by little."

She said the changes translate to more power, speed and confidence.
今年BA的改变体现在他们的节目将更强,更快,更具信心。

"We want to look more assured on our blades, so there's never any question we're the best ones out there on the ice every time we compete," she said.

Agosto said working with Linichuk and Karponosov is "like learning to skate all over again as opposed to just learning a new style."

Another departure: They perform their free dance to Tosca, a Puccini opera that Belbin said breaks away from their lighter, happier side.
托斯卡将成为他们颠覆自己轻松愉快风格的作品。

"It's the most mature work we've ever done," Agosto said. "It's going to be showing a new side of our personalities. It's tragic and passionate and intense."
Ben说‘这是我们迄今最成熟的作品。它将体现出我们个性中的另一面,悲怆,激情,浓烈。’

They selected the music at the Newark, Del., home of their coaches, sitting together for several nights after practices and listening to a stack of CDs. "We kept saying, 'No, no way,' " Agosto said.

Then Linichuk played Tosca.

"We didn't know if it was our style," said Belbin, who then heard from her coach.

"She said, 'You have no style. You are a blank slate right now. You have barely tapped the surface of what you can achieve and you're really going to break through.' "
Linichuk说,你们还没有形成风格。你们只是一块空白的石板。你们还远未达到你们的能力所及的深度,所以你们必须突破。

For the duo entering its 10th competitive year together, that inspirational talk was all it took to be sold on Tosca and a new style.

"We're really very lucky. We're in great hands," Belbin said. "They know what it takes to become champions."

fs2046 发表于 2008-10-23 10:41:44

Icenetwork的文章。

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081017&content_id=53509&vkey=ice_news

"New look" for Belbin and Agosto in Everett
Promise better fundamentals, more dramatic free dance -- and glittery costumes

没有更新的内容,就不翻了。

最后一句就是Tanith对Evan的调侃:

"Last year, we strove for simplicity; this year, we want dramatic effect," she said. "We have lines and cuts and stones; they're very loud and bright and sparkly, and obviously that means Evan is going to hate them."

对了,这个星期偶然看了一下与星共舞,发现下面这位与贝雷合影的仁兄竟然表现超好,已经连续三周稳坐冠军,是夺冠大热哦。

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/fs2046/McDET1.jpg

还有篇关于比较个人化的报道

Tanith Belbin, Ben Agosto hope leaving Canton sparks return to world stage

http://www.freep.com/article/2008101.../1065/SPORTS17

里面提到了一些Tan和Ben在宾州的新生活,他们的住处离训练基地都是20分钟车程,但住在相反的方向。Ben的女友已经搬来和他同住,他们买了一幢房子,以便让狗狗有地方玩耍。而Tanith在新兴商业区租了一套两居室的公寓,她说反正不打算久住,2010年后退役就会离开。她做过花滑教练和时装设计师的母亲最近和她一起住,帮她做服装的最后修改。

他们来宾州后就一直埋头苦练。头两个星期一直在练最基本的‘左,右,左,右’的滑行,连压步都不许做。

他们两人以前都酷爱社交,现在心思全放在训练上,他们说虽然家搬来了,他们的朋友圈子还留在Detroit,Tanith搞笑地说,‘年纪大了,花不动了’。

上周Ben家的水管破了,地下室洪水泛滥,他笑着说这才让他回到现实的生活里来。采访当天Ben不舒服,请了假(祝早日康复),Tanith还是照常训练,一丝不苟,教练不管的时候,她妈妈就是监工。她说自己从没像现在这么用功过,希望一切努力在2010年有个圆满的结果。







fs2046 发表于 2008-10-23 10:51:32

接下来是Icenetwork关于Evan的文章。

他取消了原定上周四的记者会,所以Icenetwork对他单独进行了简短的电话访问。(估计他觉得关于滑冰的问题看周末的表现,现在说再多也没用,滑冰以外的问题反正不想回答,索性不浪费大家时间了。)

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081020&content_id=53650&vkey=ice_news

文章前半部抄袭1152楼的报道,后半部分的谈话简要翻译如下:

Training is going great. I feel lucky and blessed to step on the ice every day and do something I love. I'm more excited for this season than I've been in a long time. I'm skating because I love this sport! The offseason was very productive. Working with Tatiana Tarasova this season is going really well. She and I are proud of the programs that we worked very hard on. They're both very different for me. I hope people can appreciate the changes I've made.

他说‘很久没有感觉像现在这样热爱滑冰了。非赛季的训练成果非常显著,与Tarasova教练的合作非常愉快,我们都对新节目感到无比骄傲。它们和我从前的风格大相径庭,但我希望你们在看过后能接受并喜欢我的转变。’

训练之余,他一直致力于促进儿童的健康及教育,以及推动花滑运动在美国的普及。在过去的七年里,他曾与数十家慈善机构合作,为公益事业作了大量幕后工作。今年,除Make a wish foundation外,他还在Ronald McDonald House 基金会和Figure Skating in Harlem董事会中担当要职,并参予组织了不少成功的公益活动。Ronald McDonald House的下一个大计划是11月20日世界儿童日,他们将携手麦当劳各分店为全球需要帮助的儿童举办义卖,详情请见http://www.rmhc.org/。

访问最后记者让他谈一下对Jeffrey Buttle 和Stéphane 相继退役的看法,Evan对这两位并肩作战了近十年的对手和朋友给予了真诚的祝福和高度评价。

他说,Jeff 和Stéphane都是我的好友,我想他们都会为自己的决定而感到高兴。作为朋友,我只希望他们都能快乐。他们已经为在冰坛留下了一段令人难以忘怀的传奇。他们是我最爱欣赏的两位选手,我会一如既往地崇拜和敬重他们。


(希望他们出众的艺术表现力也能为Evan的进步带来积极正面的影响。)

原话:I am good friends with both Jeff and Stéphane, and I think they are both very happy with their decisions. As a friend, all I want for them is to be happy. They have both left a very impressive legacy in skating. They are two of my favorite skaters to watch, and I will continue to admire and respect them.

fs2046 发表于 2008-10-23 11:56:41

另外上个月Evan接受了著名刊物《洛杉矶时报》的邀请,成为其体育时尚论坛‘妙不可言’(The Fabulous Forum)的特约撰稿人,将不定期分享自己的生活点滴和心得。


最新一期的专栏里,他谈及了Skate America的备战情况,时尚,湖人队。


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/10/evan-lysacek-w.html

Evan Lysacek: Are you ready for some skating?

October 21, 2008

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/fs2046/EvanPractics.jpg

去年美国杯训练的照片



坐在院中,突然发觉秋色以至。这意味着洛杉矶人开始需要借助外套和围巾抵挡夜晚的寒意,也意味着属于滑冰的季节终于到来了。

这个秋天,对洛杉矶将有特别的意义,因为它已被选定为世界花样滑冰锦标赛的主办城市。明年三月,该赛将在洛城的Staples Center揭幕。它将成为十六个月之后加拿大温哥华冬奥会前的重要热身。

本周末,
Skate America将在华盛顿州的Everett举行,花滑的2009赛季也将就此拉开序幕。作为系列大奖赛的第一站,所有参赛选手都将在此上演他们新节目的处女秀,SA也因此一直备受瞩目。

每当大赛来临,我总喜欢让自己保持繁忙,以免过多去想比赛的压力。最近着手的一个附带项目是,替自己寻找明年冬奥会比赛服装的新设计师。正值洛杉矶时装周开幕,我有幸受邀到后台观看了一些顶级时装设计师的新作品。

Lauren Conrad的新品牌给我留下了深刻印象。她的设计强调舒适和自然,很适于冰上表演。过去的两年,我曾与Gianfranco Ferre, Heatherette, Hedi Slimane, Issey Miyake,Alexander McQueen等优秀设计师合作过。他们都令我对时尚有了新的认知,我欣赏他们每一位的风格,

周日晚,我去了现场为我(在丰田体育中心)的训练伙伴-洛杉矶湖人队助威,他们在与多伦多队的比赛里赢得了胜利,这更增添了我对新赛季的信心。

训练一直进行得很顺利。周一我们对节目内容和技术进行了最后的演练和调整。然后我在John Frieda沙龙的好友-Hannah Knowlton亲手为我剪了新发型。

我感觉自己焕然一新。我已经准备好与来自世界各地高手们切磋。星期三,我将飞赴Everett,以参加周四的赛前练习和适应场地。

周五晚上是短节目比赛,限时两分四十五秒,选手需要在自选的音乐配合下完成八组规定动作。周六晚是自由滑,那将是令人精疲力竭的长达四分四十五秒的表演,包含八组跳跃(其中有三组连跳)以及三个旋转和两套步法。

看点当然少不了四周跳。这是男子比赛里风险最高的动作:要在空中完成四次转体,不成功则成仁。

注解:

简单介绍一下Evan在文章里提到的服装设计师/品牌:

Gianfranco Ferre:

意大利著名时装设计大师,是与Giorgio Amani和Gianni Versace齐名的米兰3G之一。以酷爱简洁线条,复古原色系,做工精细考究,用料高雅华贵著称,曾荣获时装界最高荣誉,金顶针大奖,被称为服装界的天才建筑师。他为Evan设计的《卡门》造型是大师留给花滑的最后作品。费雷是我的最爱之一,个人认为他的设计和Evan的气质最配。

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/18/gianfranco_ferre_narrowweb__300x401,0.jpg

Heatherette

90年代中期由Traver Rains和Richie Rich联手创建的美国时尚品牌,深受美国年轻人及好莱坞名流的青睐。造型选材和用色都前卫大胆,富于想象力。Evan08赛季的表演曲目Michael Jackson/Chris Brown组曲的服装由Heatherette设计。

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/photos/jenna-jameson-heatherette-fashion.jpg

Hedi Slimane

出生于突尼斯的法国设计大师,曾先后在YSL,Gucci, Prada,Christian Dior任要职,身材瘦小,性格怪异,才华横溢,常有惊人之举。设计路线华丽简洁,兼具古典优雅和时尚动感,尤其注重线条的完美。 Evan07赛季SP-The feeling begins的服装出自Hedi Slimane之手。



http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z14/Rizvana/Hedi1-1.jpg


Issey Miyake

日本时尚界泰斗,三宅一生。以无结构模式设计著称于世,富于创新,将东方的飘逸与西方的自由精神完美融合,面料造型富于自然和人性气息。Evan06赛季的表演Sway服装来自三宅一生。

http://www.webwombat.com.au/lifestyle/fashion_beauty/images/miyake1.JPG

Alexander McQueen

英国时装设计大师,曾多次荣获时装设计师协会年度最杰出设计师大奖和女皇勋章,曾是Gucci和Puma的骨干力量,92年成立个人服装品牌。其设计是传统/时尚,力量/温情的文美容和,剪裁考究,深受英伦年轻一代追捧。他包办了Evan08赛季短节目和自由滑的服装。

http://brightstarlights.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/alexander-mcqueen.jpg

Lauren Conrad

以电视节目the Hills一炮而红的青春偶像,美国电视红人,同时也是畅销书作家和时装界的新宠。

个人网站,这位美女设计师长得和Tanith有点型似:
http://www.lauren-conrad.net/

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/03/16-22/lauren_conrad300.jpg



franzsfan 发表于 2008-10-24 08:04:18

原帖由 Penny 于 2008-10-17 11:18 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif
很期待哦!自从98年BK的大河之舞之后,很久没有看到冰上踢踏舞了。




这个星期参加美国站的三对美国冰舞选手的OD全部都是踢踏舞。也就是说除了B/A以外的两对:S/B和S/G也选的是踢踏舞,此外这个赛季用tap dance的还有其他国家的冰舞选手以及一部分青少年组小冰舞。

wushuang122 发表于 2008-10-25 00:39:26

原帖由 franzsfan 于 2008-10-24 08:04 发表 http://www.chinaice.org/images/common/back.gif




这个星期参加美国站的三对美国冰舞选手的OD全部都是踢踏舞。也就是说除了B/A以外的两对:S/B和S/G也选的是踢踏舞,此外这个赛季用tap dance的还有其他国家的冰舞选手以及一部分青少年组小冰舞。
不是另外的用的是SWING DANCE嘛?

hu2891601 发表于 2008-10-25 06:58:30

CD后第二,还好,比D/S就落后不到一分,争取在OD和FD中追上去

fs2046 发表于 2008-10-25 10:54:09

没想到今年什么都扎堆,连踢踏舞也如此,囧囧囧,希望小f家的DW表这么俗就好。



USA Today对BA采访的开头有这样一段话,说得非常中肯。

Flaws can be hidden, glossed over and prettied up so masterfully few would even guess they're there.

人们可以巧妙地粉饰太平,甚至藏拙到不露痕迹的地步。

Inevitably, though, the patches wear thin and the cracks show. Reach that point, and it will take more than a touchup or two to make everything right.

但那些补丁迟早会磨薄,裂缝迟早会出现。一旦问题再度暴露,就不是小修小补能解决的了。

BA这个夏天最大的收获应该是意识到了这一点,运气总会用尽,实力才是王道。



在美国杯第一天的规定舞比赛里,他们以不到一分的微小差距暂时落后于世界冠军Delobel/Schoenfelder。

CD RESULTS:

1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 38.49 19.50 18.99 7.55 7.40 7.80 7.75 0.00 9
2 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 37.63 19.10 18.53 7.40 7.20 7.50 7.65 0.00 8
3 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 34.37 17.44 16.93 6.85 6.55 6.85 6.90 0.00 7
4 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 32.26 16.74 15.52 6.35 5.95 6.20 6.40 0.00 5
5 Emily SAMUELSON / Evan BATES USA 31.81 16.24 15.57 6.30 6.05 6.30 6.30 0.00 6
6 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 29.78 15.30 14.48 5.90 5.60 5.80 5.90 0.00 4
7 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 28.41 14.64 13.77 5.60 5.25 5.60 5.65 0.00 3
8 Jane SUMMERSETT / Todd GILLES USA 27.50 14.86 12.64 5.20 4.95 5.10 4.95 0.00 2
9 Alli HANN-McCURDY / Michael CORENO CAN 25.74 13.64 12.10 5.00 4.60 4.90 4.90 0.00 1

规定舞一直是BA的弱项,但今天的比赛,他们的进步有目共睹,尤其是速度和滑行技巧。他们对自己能准确无误地顺利完成这套维也纳华尔兹也表示满意。


欣赏一下新衣服,Ben说Tanith的羽毛‘很美味’ :


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/n2811741_33355469_288.jpg


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/SABACD1.jpg


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http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/SABA2.jpg


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/SABA3.jpg


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/SATanith.jpg

fs2046 发表于 2008-10-25 11:07:40

BA在CD赛后的访问:

"Very nervous, absolutely," Belbin said. "But thankfully our new coaches have been really working on our knee bend and strength in our legs."

Tanith说新教练重点抓了他们的膝盖运用和增强腿部力量。

On Friday, they skated smoothly and confidently to the Viennese Waltz in the season's first Grand Prix, a series of six international competitions.

"It was the first time we've done a compulsory dance at any event where we weren't shaking the entire time," Belbin said. "We're always nervous that something's going to go wrong in the compulsory. When you expect a fall, it happens. So this time I'm glad to get it out of the way without any falls."

她说这是他们第一次在比规定舞时没有从头到尾一直在发抖 ,因为他们总是怕出错。结果却往往是怕什么来什么。这回没摔让她很高兴。

The crowd seemed to share their relief, giving them the biggest round of applause of any of the nine competing couples.

观众给于了他们最热烈的掌声。

"It was actually really enjoyable out there today," Agosto said. "I felt like we did a good job with the base that we're working on and we're moving in the right direction. Next time we do this dance it'll be even stronger, even bigger."

Ben认为目前他们一切都在步入正轨,他有信心下次规定舞会做得更好。

补充一点ESPN访问里一些大家没看过的很可爱的内容。

Tanith的父母现住在佐治亚州,Ben的父母还住在底特律,他的女友正在读大学,远程上课,所以能陪他一起搬到宾州。

Tanith最怀念的是她在底特律的一众闺密,尤其是Meryl Davis,Brooke Castile和Lauren Senft。她说女友们现在还会每周都给她打电话。

搬来宾州她不太情愿,但她很清楚自己来这是滑冰,不是交友的。她只需要再坚持18个月,然后就解放了。

她说2010年肯定会是他们事业的终点。早在2002年,他们就已经这么决定了。

Ben说他最痛恨规定舞,每次比赛感觉很痛苦,像在拔牙( ,好可爱的比喻)。即使现在他也不敢说自己喜欢这个比赛,但至少他开始明白它的重要性,这是全面提高滑冰技术的基础环节。

比较戏剧性的是,男友刚在上赛季用了托斯卡,没想到林姨妈又钦点这支曲做BA的自由舞。惊闻噩耗,Tanith战战兢兢地给Evan打了个电话,跟他说,‘宝贝,别我生气,我们要滑托斯卡了。’

好在Evan没有表示失望,他说,只要这个决定对你们有帮助就好。


BA的托斯卡造型抢先看,超喜欢Tanith的裙子 ,Ben的衣服正面有点小囧主要是那个红围巾有点夸张。这张还好,不太显。




http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/SABAFD.jpg






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最后是一点Icenetwork的小花絮。

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081024&content_id=53817&vkey=ice_news

Frank Carroll在采访中说,他刚得知Tarasova选了Bolero时反应(和大家一样)是‘欧,不!千万别(又是Bolero)!’ 但他看了节目本身以后改变了想法,他说自己很喜欢这个节目,有趣而有戏剧性。

不过最近Evan的腿伤又复发了(从训练录像看对跳跃质量,尤其是3A还是有影响的,也许这是他短节目决定不上四的原因之一),好在Frank说伤得不算太严重。(上帝保佑,只要伤势不加重,得第几都无所谓,千万别太拼了。 )

另外Tatiana给Evan设计的服装终于面世了,据说Evan不喜欢这个设计,感觉太囧了。


老实说我也有同感,都不好意思贴出来,前胸后背都是巨大的十字图案,后背的十字比前胸更囧,不明白这和Bolero有啥联系,只能说老太太的思维相当跳跃和前卫。


(怪不得上星期Evan专程跑到时装节去找明年服装的设计师。小小声地说其实何必那么大费周章呢?守着一个时装设计师的岳母干吗不用?她给Tanith设计的衣服都挺好看的。)




就是这个


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/SAEvanSP1.jpg


不过看过现场效果的人说这衣服动态的效果比照片好很多,很快就能见分晓了,先跟大家打个招呼,怕被吓到就请自动屏蔽,大家千万砸轻点。

最后是几张开幕晚宴的照片:

Evan&Tanith

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/EvanTanSA08.jpg

Ben&John, 谁不知道‘囧’字怎么写,请参见Ben同学的脸


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/BenJohnSA08.jpg


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/fs2046_fs2046/BenSA08.jpg

花与爱丽丝 发表于 2008-10-25 12:41:15

我们的选手什么时候能花这么多时间好好练练基本功啊?为什么到现在还没认识到这个问题呢?唉~~
很期待看到B/A的新节目,相信他们可以更强。不知道俄D/S会怎样,好奇中~~
林姨妈的Tosca相信会与众不同的吧,明知道是这么多人悬用过的曲子还坚持,必定是有独特的地方吧,毕竟姨妈以前带D/S的时候那些节目还真没有让我们失望过

汤昊 发表于 2008-10-25 19:37:05

祝贺EVAN短节目首演成功!希望能保持下去,全新的风格!

Wilwarin 发表于 2008-10-25 20:48:49

evan的sp不错,不愧是老太太,适合人的节目,人就不一样了啊
3个跳跃合乐时间正好
不过怎么觉得开始有俄系风格了捏.....
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