[讨论] 普鲁申科全记录--讨论专帖!(P89自由滑雏形)

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TeenのsTeven 发表于 2010-6-29 14:32:08 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/content/transnews/0,10869,4844-128590-19728-18885-308215-3787-4771-layout160-129898-news-item,00.html

Decision of the ISU Council on Eligibility of Mr. Evgeny Plushenko (RUS)

Based on evidence presented the Council has concluded that Mr. Evgeny Plushenko breached the ISU eligibility rule 102, paragraph 2, i) of the ISU General Regulations and as a consequence has become ineligible under paragraph 7 a) of that rule. The evidence has proved to the satisfaction of the Council that Mr. E. Plushenko, a skater and member of the Figure Skating Federation of Russia (FSFR), skated in exhibitions held in March and April 2010, in Russia and other countries, without the express prior authorization of the FSFR. Such activity is a breach of the ISU eligibility rules and results in the loss of eligibility.

The present decision communicated to both Mr E. Plushenko and the FSFR may be appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, Lausanne, Switzerland, within 21 days upon receipt of the decision, in accordance with Article 25, paragraph 2, c) of the ISU Constitution.
dingo1944 发表于 2010-6-29 14:37:51 | 显示全部楼层
这件事前前后后折腾快两个月了,真是让人恶心到吐烦躁到死!
ISU&RSU你们再加把劲儿,短平快地把这个老家伙直接整趴下翻不了身,一了百了!干吧,跌~~~
正笑 发表于 2010-6-29 14:48:29 | 显示全部楼层
回复 1125# 我是冰冰


    不过,冬奥会的大门也并非就此向普鲁申科关闭,据悉,他还有21天的时间可以向位于洛桑的体育仲裁法庭提起上诉。

但愿他的智囊团为他找出一个合适的理由,争取得到国际滑联的谅解
liuyuqi1982 发表于 2010-6-29 15:21:38 | 显示全部楼层
完蛋了,普皇从此绝唱了!他不会就是为了出场费吧?这个节骨眼上怎么还这样?
丽丽熊 发表于 2010-6-29 16:54:01 | 显示全部楼层
不是吧?搞这种飞机?

可怜的普啊~~~~~~~~~~~
enderstar 发表于 2010-6-29 17:22:48 | 显示全部楼层
ISU General Regulations中有关规定:
对于无参赛资格的选手的定义

2. Definition of an ineligible person
A person becomes ineligible to participate in ISU activities and competitions by:
i) skating or officiating without the prior express authorization of the respective Member, in any capacity in a Skating competition, exhibition or tour in any of the sport disciplines of the ISU;
ii) skating or officiating in a competition conducted by Officials (Referees, Technical Controllers, Technical Specialists, Judges, Starters, Competitors Stewards, etc.) not on the approved list of the respective Member or on the ISU approved list;
iii) skating or officiating in an event not sanctioned by a Member and/or the ISU; or
iv) otherwise violating this Rule 102.

并且,普是被ISU单独发文件点名禁赛的,他还要接受如下额外惩罚:

In addition to the consequences and status of ineligibility described in Rule 102, paragraph 7 and Rule 103, paragraph 1, a person specifically declared ineligible by the Council, if the Council so states in its decision, may be also declared to be persona non grata(不受欢迎的人) within the ISU and such person may not take part in ISU activities, stand for or hold any ISU Office, be a delegate to any Congress, be an ISU Official, be granted credentials to any ISU Event, seminar or meeting in any capacity, or otherwise occupy any position, appointed or otherwise, identified in the ISU Constitution, Regulations, Event Memorandums, Communications or Circular Letters as a position of service or responsibility on behalf of the ISU.

具体的取消参赛资格的规则说明:

7. Loss of eligibility
a) The consequence of a breach of the eligibility rules shall be the loss of eligibility. The status of a person disqualified or suspended under other applicable Rules, does not affect the eligible status of such person, but it limits, according to the terms of the applicable disciplinary sanction, the right of such person to participate in the competitions and activities of the ISU;
红苹果 发表于 2010-6-29 17:55:51 | 显示全部楼层
支持isu对普的处罚。至少要禁赛一年,但是对于4年后的奥运会还是应该让普参加的吧。
水水的水 发表于 2010-6-29 19:25:03 | 显示全部楼层
ISU和RSU勾结
没下限
银耳 发表于 2010-6-30 01:39:03 | 显示全部楼层
koi的商演最初有获批,商演都是本国冰协批准就可以,koi团队不是菜鸟,批文没拿到就搞跨国商演
但是现在俄冰协表示isu不准他们批准普的商演(在他们已经发了批文以后,商演还有几天就开始的情况下),所以他们是无辜的,为了保住自己的资格,驳回先前的批文,普作为koi的主办者在当时情况下面临的根本不是出场费的问题,而是整个活动取消的违约后果
明显是前俄冰协主席的报复,果然宁得罪君子莫得罪小人,玩政治运动员怎么玩得过官员
enderstar 发表于 2010-6-30 04:11:22 | 显示全部楼层
koi的商演最初有获批,商演都是本国冰协批准就可以,koi团队不是菜鸟,批文没拿到就搞跨国商演
但是现在俄冰 ...
银耳 发表于 2010-6-30 01:39

不论你说的是不是事实,我猜测的是ISU做出这个决定的最关键部分应该是“普没去参加世锦赛”。
我估计ISU对普的医疗报告起了疑心要调查的原因就是看到他去参加KOI但是不来世锦赛。而且同样参加了KOI的猪和Brezina也都同时参加了世锦赛,所以ISU可能更加怀疑普不来世锦赛的真实原因了。
也就是说,普真正违反的并不是“没拿到商演许可”,而是违反了“无正当理由不可无故缺席ISU赛事”的规定。
dianaeve 发表于 2010-6-30 12:53:01 | 显示全部楼层
回复 1135# enderstar

但想不明白的,同样退出世锦赛又参加了KOI的囧尼,却完全没有收到禁赛令啊?
红苹果 发表于 2010-6-30 12:54:01 | 显示全部楼层
不论你说的是不是事实,我猜测的是ISU做出这个决定的最关键部分应该是“普没去参加世锦赛”。
我估计ISU ...
enderstar 发表于 2010-6-30 04:11



      同意,问题的关键就是普鲁申科没参加世界锦标赛。
      没力气去比赛,有力气去表演,不管普鲁申科的理由多么的充分,都违背了运动员的奋斗精神。哪有你喜欢参加就参加,你不喜欢就不参加的好事啊?既然你还要参加isu的比赛,就应该遵守isu的规定。
     2006年之前普就因为频繁参加商业表演,而借口伤病的原因没有参加大奖赛,受到了isu的警告。虽然有人会说表演没有比赛这样高的强度,但是这个理由有说服力吗?如果要是这样话,哪些优秀的选手都去参加商业演出了,比赛的可看性都会大大的降低,我想这是谁都不愿意看到的。
      其实这方面金同学就比较乖了,虽然为了备战奥运会没有参加本国举行的四大洲,但是她积极应对,在奥运会后,在身体训练并不好的状态下,参加了世界锦标赛最终还是获得了亚军。
      另外,我也想问威尔怎么没有处罚呢?难道他不参加世界锦标赛,去表演是获得许可的吗?
enderstar 发表于 2010-6-30 13:57:04 | 显示全部楼层
楼上俩,大少可没有一个对着干的罗刹国冰邪……
大少那边肯定是程序没问题的,事先在米国冰邪取得了许可,且有正当理由不参加世锦赛,并向米国冰邪作了说明,这就ok了。
水水的水 发表于 2010-6-30 19:50:47 | 显示全部楼层
比赛和表演一样嘛?
表演又不要跳4周
不参加世锦赛怎么了?
非要像05年世锦赛那样吗?伤退,然后去动大手术?
哦,这样才没人说是吧
月是一双弦 发表于 2010-6-30 19:57:31 | 显示全部楼层
回复 1138# enderstar


   

大少应该是世锦赛就没有报名吧,之后美国也让摸脸替上去了。和普的情况不太一样?最早的新闻里说的是普违反了“退赛两周内参加商演”这一条。
我很奇怪的是说罗大姐“受到了原谅”,贴吧那边说是她因为母亲去世参加商演所以被原谅了,这逻辑让我十分不能理解。。。。。
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