金妍儿讨论贴VI（Kiss&Cry进行中，为建花滑专用冰场筹款）

Orser says, mom says, but what does Kim say?

Brian Orser is no longer the coach of Kim Yu-Na. Why that is depends on who you talk to. But what does the skater really think beyond the customary, "goodbye and good luck?" A classic case of interference by a "skating mom," or simply two parties moving on?

Here is what we know - Brian Orser is no longer the coach of Olympic champion Kim Yu-Na.
Why the split?
According to Orser, Kim's mother Park Mee-hee informed him on Aug. 2 that "he would no longer be retained." Orser's management IMG released a statement on Aug. 23, adding "no reason was given for the sudden and unexpected decision."
Kim's mother, who has always been at the forefront of the 19-year-old's career, is the CEO of "Queen Yu-Na's" new management firm All That Sports.
AT Sports claims that Orser informed them on Aug. 23 that "he would no longer be able to care for Kim Yu-Na" and the agency took that as Orser's decision to step down.
Here is the timeline according to AT Sports-
May 2010 - The relationship between Brian Orser and Kim's agency is strained
June 2010 - Kim begins practicing without a coach
Early August 2010- Kim's agency and Orser agreed to Kim and Orser taking some unofficial time off
August 23, 2010 - Orser informs AT Sports he will no longer be able to care for Kim, which AT Sports understands as Orser stepping down.
The missing information in this he-said, she-said is where Kim stands in all of this.
Yes, there is the official statement from Kim, "I thank [Orser]. He helped me to win the Olympic gold medal. I hope he will endeavor to continue teaching athletes. I wish him good luck."
But would you speak out against your mother, who happens to be your manager?
The relationship between Kim and Orser thrived since it began in December 2006.
The world junior champion arrived in Toronto in 2006 with nagging injuries and on the verge of quitting the sport.
"There were problems of boots and injuries, so I was scared to think that I had to endure it until I quit my athlete's life. I didn't even want to move at the skating rink and really thought it was over," Kim said.
In steps two-time Olympic silver medalist Brian Orser.
Kim's new coach cut back her off-ice training time and taught her "the value of rest and taking care of her body," he said in an interview.
Things were not always smooth, especially at the beginning when Orser says it was challenging to see such raw talent so focused on the technical and not enjoying the process. His goal as a coach was to have her enjoy skating everyday and by 2008 Skate America, he realized they were making progress.
Fast forward to the 2010 Olympic Games, where a lifelong dream of both Orser and Kim was realized - the Olympic gold medal. Fast forward to August 2010, and a seemingly unstoppable duo has split.
Why?
It seems hard to believe that Kim was truly unhappy with her coaching situation in Toronto. While Orser has added quite a few elite students since his first (Kim), it is not uncommon for an elite coach to instruct several top athletes. (Orser coaches American hopefuls Adam Rippon and Christina Gao, among others.)
Was Kim's management uncomfortable with this? By Kim's management, can we point directly to her mother Park Mee-hee, who is CEO and as she wrote in her memoir, "majored in Yu-Na."
According to the New York Times, Park monitors Kim's training, records her mistakes, and has forgot her husband's birthday and skipped her older daughters graduation because it conflicted with Yu-Na's competitions.
In the same article, Park acknowledges she suppressed Kim's sister Aera's dreams to be a singer because she wanted to focus the families finances on Yu-Na's skating career.
So is this a classic case of "skating mom" trying to assert control of her daughter's career, or has the Orser-Kim bond truly tired and it was time for the Olympic champ to move on?

无论这个事件的结果或者是过程是怎样，有一点是可以肯定的，如果Yuna不在今年世锦赛上去得满意的成绩，失误或者失败什么的，棒      国人民是不会放过Yuna和她娘等人的

再次恭喜yuna她娘，又为自己女儿增加的比赛的“动力”

再次，如果真是ATS说谎炒掉BO，拿以后谁还敢接Yuna做教练？

Yuna她娘真是考虑周道，一下三条路，比赛，舆论，教练，面面都不放过

BO大叔的最新回应，果然Yuna不知情。

“I spoke with her the other day … She seems confused about what’s going on. Because of all this turmoil with her mother, she doesn’t know what’s going on. Nor do I. That’s what I said to her, ‘I’m a little confused, but it’s been a great four years,’” said Orser.

“We just needed to have a little chat with her before I did this (went public), that the last four years were really magical and we had such a great thing and we support her in whatever direction she wants to go. She wasn’t part of any of these decisions about letting us go.”

Yuna在多伦多大叔的俱乐部待着呢，对这事肯定是知情的，和大叔肯定也是有沟通的，所以这些是台面话，我是希望，这是大叔和Yuna商量后才出来的说法。目的是把事摆台面上来说，让KR冰鞋和赞助商也出面来协调。。。哎，我忍不住要胡思乱想啊，楼下的尽管忽略我好了。。。

哎，希望这次Yuna能自己给自己做个决定，而不是让妈妈再来做决定。。。

还是建议大家不要太兴奋 事情还没弄个 水落石出呢

等到 ATS 召开发表会之后 再议论也不迟啊    还是耐心等待一会儿吧

Yuna在法律上已经成年了吧（不知道韩国法律是18还是20，就算20也快了），如果Yuna自己够强硬，她妈妈没办法的，日后发展，就看她自己想不想维持这段关系了～～经纪公司的话也不能无缘无故违背雇主本人的意思。母女亲情再怎么说日后也能弥合，因为这是血缘关系，如果Yuna真的因为这个和大叔分开了，恐怕～～想想Yuna跟大叔之前那一身伤，真是不想再想Yuna以后的职业生涯～～

不断有人士发表相关的评论和消息：
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune. ... d-disrespected.html

Orser said he never was given a reason for the split.  But he first hoped that it wasn't irrevocable, and Kim still was training -- with an occasional tip from Orser -- at the Toronto Cricket Club.

So he kept the situation quiet until Monday night, when Orser's agent, David Baden of International Management Group, issued a statement about the split on the coach's behalf.

An email sent to Choi for comment was not immediately returned.

Orser and Wilson had a final conversation with Kim last Thursday.  They told her they still were confused by what had happened.  According to Orser, Kim replied that she was confused as well and ''had no idea what is going on, either.''``We told her, `Whatever you decide to do, we support you, and we want you to be happy,''' Orser said.  ``I don't want anything to deflate the memories of the four wonderful years we had together.''

可性度不知，有些话看着也挺伤人的，哎。。。

大叔也有说到，分歧产生不是因为钱，他一个小时收费是110美元，是同水平教练中最低的。。。

另外，这篇文章也说将由席琳jj来为Yuna编新SP。

Whatever you decide to do, we support you, and we want you to be happy


好感动！！！！！！大叔不是一心要yuna取成绩让自己沾光，而是要yuna快乐，更加enjoy。

这事yuna也蒙在鼓里，多半是她公司又有什么商业上的行为酱紫。
决定权绝对最后是在yuna手里的，懂事的yuna最后做的决定我们fans是绝对支持的，只要不是被逼的就好。

我是上午才听单子姐姐说这个消息的。。。当时觉得真是amazing，比玩三国杀司马懿中闪电还amazing，偏偏今晚玩三国杀司马懿还真中闪电了。。。

等吧，看看后续有啥发展
说不定明早的新闻就是：金妍儿推翻母亲暴政，哪里有压迫，哪里就有反抗。。。期待一下

额， 这到底是怎么了，害我昨天失眠，睡觉也在想这件事==！

话说一个巴掌拍不响，大叔说他完全不知道为什么，这个不会吧，我觉得YUNA妈和大叔还没有到这样子糊涂吧！怎么说都在那里呆了3个多月了~~大叔你会什么都不知道==无故解约？有可能言语误解了？
又说YUNA不知情，这个可信度也不高，怎么可能一点都不知情呢？要是真的，额~~YUNA可就是当代光绪了==YUNA她妈是慈禧哇==

话说YUNA她妈做事风格，咱已有所闻，真是惊天地，泣鬼神那，为了小YUNA不管家里的爸爸和大女儿，连他们的生日和毕业典礼都给忘了等，和前教练分了，和IGM解约，和IB不续约，自己开公司当老大，再来个和BO大叔解约==

话说我觉得YUNA干不出这么惊天动地的事，也就YUNA她老妈了，干什么事都是那么疯狂，这样的爱女之心，哎~~~~~YUNA她妈，还真能为她想
一定是YUNA她妈替YUNA着想多了，才出这样子的事，物极必反啊==

妈妈，女儿已经长大成年了，可以自己为自己打算了，你不要再为我想那么多了，去弥补你曾经少给爸爸和姐姐的爱吧~~女儿能行，是时候给我独立了，当我结婚了，你总不可能和我一起嫁过去吧==这不是真正爱女儿的方式啊！



是我想太多你总这样说
但你却没有真的心疼我
是我想太多我也这样说
这是唯一能安慰我的理由
他霸占了你的心中属于我的角落
所以你说我们不是你和我
是我想太多你总这样说
但你却没有真的心疼我
是我想太多我也这样说
这是唯一能安慰我的理由
我想我没有错怪了什么
虽然你不说或许错在我
太晚我才懂爱了你太多
是我想太多你总这样说
但你却没有真的心疼我
是我想太多我也这样说
这是唯一能安慰我的理由


Kim, 19, remains at the club, of which she is a member. Orser feels that situation is rapidly becoming untenable.
"It has created a tension that is having an impact on all the other skaters," Orser said. Something has to change.
"I think it would be better for her to leave the club. I don't think she can train on her own at this level."
额，什么意思？奥泽希望YUNA还是离开多伦多俱乐部，无论对其他花滑选手还是YUNA这是更好的==

功勋教练被炒感觉太突然 金妍儿妈妈成幕后主导
四川新闻网-成都晚报

本报讯（记者 周维）刚刚才成为了世界体坛第五富婆的金妍儿，在毫无征兆的情况下把一手将自己培养成为集世锦赛冠军、大奖赛总决赛冠军、奥运会冠军于一身的功勋教练、加拿大人奥泽炒了。北京时间昨日，被炒掉的奥泽通过自己的经纪人宣布了这个消息，到目前为止双方的经纪公司都没有就此事给出一个合理的解释。

　　金妍儿的妈妈才是决定者

　　针对此事，奥泽的经纪公司IMG在纽约召开新闻发布会，“早在8月2日，奥泽和编舞教练威尔森就曾收到金妍儿母亲朴美熙的通知，他们被告知将不再继续担任金妍儿教练一职。”奇怪的是金妍儿的经纪公司AT SPORTS公司并没有对该决定作出任何解释。据悉，金妍儿的经纪公司AT SPORTS由母亲朴美熙一手创立，辞退通知也是经由她手决定的。针对解除合约一事，双方经纪公司各执一词，AT SPORTS在一份声明中指出，自己并未主动提出终止合约，而是奥泽本周一就已经提出辞职要求。

　　功勋教练感觉太突然

　　“当我听到被解约的消息时感觉很突然，他们没有给出任何理由，这样的结果无论如何是我没有想到的。”奥泽这样回答记者的提问，“能够与金妍儿这样具有才华的运动员一起合作是我的荣幸，我希望今后她能在花滑领域继续提高自己。”奥泽与金妍儿于2006年正式“牵手”，当时金妍儿正处于事业低潮期。在奥泽的指导下，金妍儿实现了作为一名花样滑冰运动员所能得到的一切荣誉，大奖赛系列赛6连冠、09年四大洲锦标赛、世锦赛夺冠，还有2010年温哥华冬奥会夺金。为了表彰奥泽把金妍儿的运动生涯带上顶峰，首尔市还曾授予他“荣誉市民”的称号，只不过如今这一切都已不再重要。

　　奥泽收的门生太多？

　　此次辞退事件之前已有所暗示，近来关于金妍儿与教练解除合作关系的谣言四起，原因是有越来越多的像美国名将亚当·里蓬、克里斯蒂娜·高这样的实力不错年轻选手投入到奥泽的门下，过重的训练任务让他难以分心照顾金妍儿的新赛季。最后金妍儿也通过AT SPORTS，为奥泽多年来在自己身上作出的努力表示感谢：“感谢奥泽对我这些年的帮助，经过我们的共同努力，最终实现了冬奥会夺冠的梦想，衷心希望今后他能培养出更多的优秀选手。”

YUNA回应了，这到底是咋回事啊？太复杂啦!

应该是有人盗用账号了吧，而且马上被删啦，而且盗号那人英语应该不太好语法错误啊

楼上滴，Yuna这个Twitter她N年就不用了，之前已经有KR媒体曝光过一个她的秘密Twitter。

再者，如果Yuna要到T上来说这话，那就说明，之前ATS发的声明中Yuna那段话是在说谎，反之亦然。



这是Yuna那个Twitter现在的截图，前面那段话不知道是被删了还是怎么的，如果这样，只能说事情越来越闹剧了。。。


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PS：楼下的，这个Twitter名义上是Yuna的，但是内容是不是Yuna发的就不得而知了，嫩留着也没事，反正这事已经注定是一场闹剧了。。。

也就是说这个Twitter是盗版的啦，不是YUNA的表态了，那我就编辑掉


感觉应该是有人盗用YUNA的名义发的，不过这事还是希望能得到很好的解决，而且希望YUNA能够按照自己的想法好好享受生活

不过这是也太复杂啦吧，现实的金枝欲孽啊

也就是说这个Twitter是盗版的啦，不是YUNA的表态了呗，那我就编辑掉
baixue2509 发表于 2010-8-25 10:03

    这个twitter不是盗版，只是从yuna申请开始几年都没有用过，这次突然冒出来这句话，而且马上被删了，Yuna twitter很多人都知道密码，而且如果说这句话真是yuna说的，不就和ATS的替yuna所谓的回应矛盾，又说明ATS在说谎，而且这段话完全不像yuna的说话风格