[讨论] 陈伟群Patrick CHAN

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pooool 发表于 2009-3-14 20:56:41 | 显示全部楼层
感谢即时8卦,哦,不对,是即时消息......
gopatrick 发表于 2009-3-22 06:16:17 | 显示全部楼层

'He's so good'

继续用新签名顶~ 不过我这个懒惰滴银懒得翻译。。。

Posted Friday, March 20, 2009 9:55 PM ET
By Beverley Smith, The Globe and Mail

His name is whispered fearfully in Europe, in Japan - everywhere there is figure skating in fact.

And although 18-year-old Canadian Patrick Chan finished ninth in his debut at the world championships last year, he's better than a dark horse to win the 2009 event next week in Los Angeles, despite his youth.

"He's so good," said last year's world champion Jeffrey Buttle. "I really think he has the potential to win this year, even. I think his skating skills and quality of skating are head and shoulders above everyone."

Although he doesn't do a quad, Chan makes up for it in many other ways and picks up points that others leave on the table. Few come close to matching his on-the-edge footwork, for example. Aside from some ice dancers, Chan is the only international figure skater to achieve a level four of difficulty - the highest level - in footwork this season.

And he's done it three times.

Chan received a level four for his circular footwork in the long program at Skate Canada. And the judges awarded level fours for his footwork in both the short and long programs at the Four Continents championships in Vancouver last month.

Level four footwork is worth more in points toward the final mark than level three. Required are immediate changes of direction, with complex turns and quick steps following each other. When the quick-footed Buttle won the world championship a year ago, he got level threes for footwork sequences.

On top of that, judges are giving Chan bonus points for executing these difficult elements. At the Four Continents, he earned a few bonus marks of plus 3 - the highest possible bonus and rarely given - for those steps. A plus 3 is basically equivalent to a perfect 6.0 under the old judging system.

In Vancouver, Chan discovered his showmanship during the footwork routines helped him get the big marks. Since winning the Four Continents, he's altered his footwork slightly to give him more breaks.

The Four Continents did not include European skaters, who are led by 2007 world champion Brian Joubert of France, winner of this year's European championships in Helsinki. But Chan has already defeated Joubert this year, on his home soil, at the Eric Bompard Trophy in Paris.

"Sure, I beat them all," Chan said. "If you look at it in an optimistic way, it pretty much means I can be Olympic champion or world champion.

"But really, all of us are capable of winning the world championships and the Olympics - it's whoever can perform on that day," he said modestly. "It's very hard to predict anything and to think I'm top of the world. We're really all on top of the world. ... Everyone is at the same level."

Chan and Joubert met again at the Grand Prix final, but Joubert withdrew after the short program, and Chan's triple Axel gave him problems. But Chan has been on a roll ever since, even improving his triple Axel to the extent that a judge gave him a bonus mark of plus 3 in the short program at Four Continents.

But comparing Chan and Joubert? They are polar opposites.

Chan doesn't do a quad yet. Joubert lives to do quads. He would far rather do quads than other elements, such as footwork and spins, and they have deteriorated as a result. Currently, Joubert is leaving marks on the table by not focusing on them. Chan, on the other hand, is maximizing his points.
gopatrick 发表于 2009-3-24 11:08:23 | 显示全部楼层

Ottawa-born Chan tired of Joubert’s complaining

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Sports/Ottawa+born+Chan+tired+Joubert+complaining/1419918/story.html
By Cam Cole, The Ottawa CitizenMarch 23, 2009 10:01 PM

Los Angeles-With several Skate Canada officials in easy earshot,Patrick Chan calmly lit the fuse Monday on what is certain to be acracking good feud between two of the world’s finest figure skaters.
Whatbrought it on was a simple question about 2007 French world championBrian Joubert, and his oft-expressed opinion that if the sport iswilling to crown a champion who doesn’t even try a quadruple jump,figure skating is actually regressing.

Chan, the 18-year-old,Ottawa-born phenom who is rated a solid chance of winning at thisweek’s ISU world figure skating championship at the Staples Center,doesn’t have a quad. Neither did Canada’s Jeff Buttle, who won it all ayear ago in Sweden, prompting a sour-grapes, post-competition newsconference by Joubert, the runner-up.
“Right after the result, Iwas very disappointed, and I am still disappointed, because Jeffrey didthe perfect competition — he did no mistakes. But he didn’t try a quadjump,” said Joubert, 24, who has won three world silver medals and isthe reigning European champ. “But the new judging system is like that.It is better to do simple and clean than to try something difficult,and that’s why I was disappointed. It’s just for the figure skating. Weneed to give more points for the quad jump in the future.”

Buttle’s rebuttal was outstanding, but Chan took it a step further Monday, speaking between practices to a half-dozen reporters.
“Ithink Joubert is constantly complaining about that, because he’s nevergot anything else to say,” said Chan. “Honestly. Yes, OK, the men aredoing worse — in his opinion. Well, fine then, he better have threegood quads in his program, and nail them good, or he has nothing tosay.”

Chan is still steamed at Joubert’s denigration of Buttle’sachievement last March, especially considering that it wasn’t evenclose. The judges had Buttle winning by a mile.
“Totally. I wasreally disappointed. It’s no sportsmanship, none at all,” Chan said.“Tiger (Woods) is never going to say, ‘Oh, Mike Weir sucks because hecan’t hit it as far as I can.’ You have to play a fair game, you don’ttalk behind a guy’s back the way he did at world championships.
“Itwas a bit of a turnoff. Because now I know his personality. He’s kindof a sore loser, I guess, and if he doesn’t win, he always has anexcuse for not winning and not skating well. So, unfortunately that’shis personality and I don’t really like it. But I’m still not going totrash-talk him or say anything bad ... other than this time, I guess.”
He grinned then, but there was no taking it back.
[太可爱鸟]

“Ikind of dug myself a grave, huh? I don’t know, we’ll see. If he’s madat me, he’s mad at me, what are you going to do? I guess you guys arelooking for a rivalry, but we’re not having a rivalry.”
Not yet, anyway.
Thetruth is, these worlds, which get under way Tuesday with the originaldance and the pairs short program, could use a little spicing up. Socould the sport, in general. It was never more popular than in the eraof the two Brians, Orser and Boitano, and then the no-love-lost days ofKurt Browning versus Elvis Stojko, let alone the Nancy Kerrigan-TonyaHarding fiasco, which put figure skating on a plane it had neverreached before and hasn’t since.
That doesn’t mean we’readvocating fistfights in the warmup groups — or obstruction, which iswhat Four Continents women’s champion Yu-Na Kim claims her Japaneserivals have been doing to her — but a little healthy rancour can’t hurt.
“No,no. He’s a nice guy to me,” Chan said of the Frenchman, “but I thinkwhen he’s on the ice and he has all the cameras around him, he changespersonality, which is kind of bad. I think you should be yourself, andJeff was really good at that, as well, as a role model. He just tendsto puff up a bit when he’s on the screen.
“Obviously, (Joubert)needs to be focused on other things than just jumps. He could do betterin his performance, he could do better in his spins — for sure,footwork. It just really frustrates me.”

Every bit as titillatingas Chan’s remarks about Joubert were his assessment of two of the pastthree Olympic champions — Alexei Yagudin and Ilia Kulik — both of whomhad quads and far more to their programs than just jumps.
“Well,if you look at Yagudin at the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, his programwasn’t as difficult as any of ours,” said Chan, expanding thediscussion to include his fellow Canadians, Vaughn Chipeur of Calgaryand Vancouver’s Jeremy Ten, who stood at his side looking like a coupleof uncomfortable bodyguards. Both are older than Chan.
“Ourfootwork today is pretty much a program, you’re pooped after footwork.You can’t really compare it to back then. If you look at their footworkand even their spins, it’s nothing compared to what we do.”

Oh, my. Bless his frankness, but some things you probably shouldn’t say, even if you think they’re true. 我的天呐,主保佑他的直言不韪。但有些事情尽管你知道是真的也不该说出来。
[小陈~小陈~爱老虎油]
First the French, now the Russians.
AndChan hasn’t even won a world championship medal yet. He might want tolook after that small detail this week, all things considered.
“We’ll be here to back him up,” said Chipeur, with a smile.
The kid may need it.

这个报道真令人热血沸腾啊~~
外貌协会白金VIP 发表于 2009-3-24 12:03:16 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 gopatrick 于 2009-3-24 11:08 发表

“Well,if you look at Yagudin at the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, his programwasn’t as difficult as any of ours,” said Chan, expanding thediscussion to include his fellow Canadians, Vaughn Chipeur of Calgaryand Vancouver’s Jeremy Ten, who stood at his side looking like a coupleof uncomfortable bodyguards. Both are older than Chan.
“Ourfootwork today is pretty much a program, you’re pooped after footwork.You can’t really compare it to back then. If you look at their footworkand even their spins, it’s nothing compared to what we do.”


WoW围裙陈~~说的多有道理啊,Yags的FOOTWORK跟你比起来简直是渣嘛~~不过既然这个FOOTWORK这么重要,我看后天的比赛你就不要去了,我们换Moir弟弟上~人家那华丽丽而且还美型的中线步~~一定可以为加国拿到冠军的~~

做人,要有娱乐精神~~
卡子卡子 发表于 2009-3-25 18:07:22 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得陈伟群很帅啊~我有很多他图片,辛辛苦苦在国外网站搜刮可一大堆回来~有机会贴上~
 楼主| 鱼类 发表于 2009-3-27 08:53:47 | 显示全部楼层

ISU World Figure Skating Championships Practice







LOS ANGELES, CA - MARCH 23: Patrick Chan of Canada skates during the ISU World Figure Skating Championships Practice at the Staples Center on March 23, 2009 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Harry How/Getty Images)
 楼主| 鱼类 发表于 2009-3-27 08:55:20 | 显示全部楼层

ISU World Figure Skating Championships Day 4



LOS ANGELES, CA - MARCH 25: Patrick Chan of Canada competes in the Men's Short Program during the 2009 ISU World Figure Skating Championships at Staples Center March 25, 2009 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Jeff Gross/Getty Images)
longlong 发表于 2009-3-27 10:32:17 | 显示全部楼层
想说就说倒也挺好的,不过说小猪就说呗,把亚古丁和库里克捎带上做什么啊,再说除了四周,这两位的3A,也比围裙的好啊。
CSD 发表于 2009-3-27 11:11:28 | 显示全部楼层
心平气和~~心平气和哈~~大家都好好发挥,能飙四周的飙四周,能炫步伐的炫步伐,萝卜白菜各种型都有...这样比赛才好看嘛...
爱吃月饼的猫 发表于 2009-3-27 13:22:47 | 显示全部楼层
小陈TX请别灰心丧气
明年主场请加油
CSD 发表于 2009-3-27 13:34:55 | 显示全部楼层
恭喜小陈同学拿到第一面世锦赛奖牌~还是银牌~第二次世锦赛之行就能这样已经非常不容易了

两套节目的表现总的来说也都很好,没太多可挑刺的

gopatrick同学还不快来贡献些内幕八卦
凤求凰 发表于 2009-3-27 13:45:40 | 显示全部楼层
反正明年是加拿大的主场
丽丽熊 发表于 2009-3-27 15:26:55 | 显示全部楼层
恭喜小chan童鞋登上领奖台!
年轻就是好啊!
偶有个小希望,希望明年小chan童鞋的两套节目能够多点深层次的东西,编排不要为了滑行而滑行,有张有弛,相信chan能够做好的!
gopatrick 发表于 2009-3-27 15:52:44 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 longlong 于 2009-3-27 10:32 发表
想说就说倒也挺好的,不过说小猪就说呗,把亚古丁和库里克捎带上做什么啊,再说除了四周,这两位的3A,也比围裙的好啊。


断章取义、没认真看内容就发表意见的人太多。

小陈只不过用了一个争议性的例子反驳猪和一些人因为四周跳少了就认为男单水平下降,他的意思是男单花滑总体在步法、旋转、编排和动作衔接方面进步了,根本不是拿自己和他们比。
凤求凰 发表于 2009-3-27 15:54:24 | 显示全部楼层
我估计他明年换编排的可能性基本没有。。。。
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