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wonderishere 发表于 2008-7-12 09:44:26 | 显示全部楼层

我就不信我还把这文章发不上来!

Linichuk emphasized the decision to accept Domnina and Shabalin as students came only after consulting with Belbin and Agosto.


"The Russian skating federation contacted me and asked if I would take this couple," (冰邪的力量是无穷的!)she said. "Of course, I talked to Tanith and Ben about it first. I would not have done it without their consent."

The Americans, who previously trained at Shpilband's school in Michigan alongside wo
rld silver medalists Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir among others, said friendly competition was par fo r the course.



"I've found out over the years it doesn't matter who I'm skating with, I can always learn from them," Ben的心态真好!)Agosto explained. "We're extrao rdinarily lucky to have a large group of talented skaters here and everyone can teach us something . . . Training partners can push each other on a daily basis and help us become the best skaters we can be."

"We are both experienced teams," the 23-year-old Belbin added. "We would be foolish to regard each other as our main competition; we need to consider the entire top group of teams internationally."


Linichuk pointed out that she and her husband have coached top teams simultaneously before. In the '90s, two-time Olympic champions Oksana Grishuk and Evgeni Platov and two-time wo rld champions Anjelica Krylova and Oleg Ovsiannikov shared the ice at the University of Delaware. (好心酸。。。)

"It is not the first time the strongest teams have skated together, and we have had big success," the coach said. "We always give the maximum we have to all of our couples."

Still, both of those teams were Russian, and Grishuk and Platov were the acknowledged wo rld leaders. These days, under a mo re objective judging system, as many as five o r six teams are jockeying fo r the top few spots. Belbin and Agosto and Domnina and Shabalin are competing for a single prize: gold at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver. And only one team can win.

"Well, there is a precedent for [double] Olympic gold medalists," (我也知道有先例,但最后不也是破裂了。。)Belbin said with an impish smile at an IceWo rks press conference yesterday.


While Belbin's bon mot drew laughs, it unwittingly called attention to the sometimes cutthroat nature of ice dance competition. After all, the alleged root of the so-called "deal" at the '02 Salt Lake Olympics was an exchange of judges' votes to secure the gold medal for the French team of Marina Anissina and Gwendal Peizerat. But so far, all is well in Aston. (居然拿这档子事出来说,这记者太没人性了!)


"Having now been here for over a month I honestly can't tell you enough how pleased we are with our improvement," (进步就好,心情好就好,BA向前冲!)
Belbin said. "The facility has really welcomed us and it's just really nice to be part of the skating family here. "We think we made a big change; I can only imagine how [Domnina and Shabalin] feel. Hopefully, we can all find the success we are seeking."


There are a few practical considerations. Next year's U.S. and European Championships are scheduled fo r the same week in January, and the coaches cannot be two places at once. When pressed, Karponossov said, "I go to internal [U.S.] competitions; Natalia goes to international, so most likely she will do Europeans." (男主内,女主外,河蟹河蟹~~


Fo r the Russians' part, Shabalin's travails clearly played a role in the couple's decision to relocate from Moscow.


"Last season was the wo rst time in my life," he said. "I skated at Europeans on one leg and with [pain] injections. Our [fo rmer] coach, Alexei Go rshkov, did a lot for us, but we needed a new motivation. Of course he was a bit angry when we told him we were leaving, but we had to do something."
While he anticipates being ready to compete at Cup of China in early November, Shabalin admitted he was not yet practicing at full strength.


"I feel much better compared with a few months ago, but it is not 100 percent," he said. "I think I am at 70 o r 80 percent of my best condition, so there is hope. I will go fo r treatment here in America, they tell me there are some very good docto rs."

So far, the Russians' biggest challenge has come off the ice.

"I cannot buy a car, and it is [a] big problem," Shabalin groaned. "You can't just walk to places here. It's not like Moscow."

As Karponossov, who has been ferrying the skaters to and from the rink, explained, "Max has a B-1 visa, and it does not let him buy a car. He could rent a car, but the people [at the DMV] said he needed [more] tempo rary ID, and they could not help us. I could add him to my insurance, and let him drive my car, but that is mo re paperwork."

Linichuk is less concerned about her students' lack of transpo rtation.

"They will have no time to drive around; this is their home, on the ice," she said. "We are all wo rking all of the time. That is the key."


International dance judge Jenny Mast; coach Gennadi Karponossov; IceWorks executive vice president and part-owner Uschi Keszler; and coach Natalia Linichuk, who with Karponossov won 1980 Olympic dance gold. (courtesy of IceWorks)
纳尼亚花蜜 发表于 2008-7-12 09:55:33 | 显示全部楼层
虽然不是B/A的粉丝,但这件事,让我……
希望他们能激流勇进
wonderishere 发表于 2008-7-12 10:00:21 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 纳尼亚花蜜 于 2008-7-12 09:55 发表
虽然不是B/A的粉丝,但这件事,让我……
希望他们能激流勇进


BA自己心态还不错,他们说了,过去和VM一起训练,现在和DS一起,他们不太在意谁和谁一起训练,高手在一起往往还能互相促进。
Linichuck和Belbin都谈到90年代GP和KO的先例,他们希望这次能够成功。
纳尼亚花蜜 发表于 2008-7-12 10:03:06 | 显示全部楼层
kerrs让我对今年的冰舞又多了一份期盼
选曲和剪辑差不多就能大致决定一个节目的水平了
wonderishere 发表于 2008-7-12 10:35:18 | 显示全部楼层

ice-dance对此次新闻发布会的报道

http://www.ice-dance.com/news/blog/2008/07/when-ice-works.html


林阿姨老了,她先生貌似风采依旧:


BA:


冬菇:
Penny 发表于 2008-7-12 21:29:07 | 显示全部楼层
利尼丘克居然变化这么大啊?!她拿奥运冠军的时候可是个美女哦。
pooool 发表于 2008-7-13 00:26:28 | 显示全部楼层
我靠,林姨妈怎么忽地残了,陪着DS保的时候还是神采熠熠的啊

PS 除了BEN,其他三只在想什么呢?特别是冬菇,形容枯槁,都快认不出来了
 楼主| 扶风 发表于 2008-7-13 00:38:17 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 纳尼亚花蜜 于 2008-7-12 10:03 发表
kerrs让我对今年的冰舞又多了一份期盼
选曲和剪辑差不多就能大致决定一个节目的水平了

这话倒是麻麻~~说到底还是品位问题啊

那啥,两队一线哪是那么好带的。。还得防着掐起来
只希望今年林姨做的这两件嫁衣好歹也能合合身,最起码别绊人家摔个跟头
PS:冬菇那还是一如既往的忧郁深沉啊。。。。。。
fs2046 发表于 2008-7-14 07:08:50 | 显示全部楼层
随着2010年奥运会的一天天临近,各路选手都纷纷做出大动作,以期在温哥华有所斩获。 由此引发了今年夏天换教练,换编舞的狂潮。

B/A和俄D/S的换教练风波尚未平息,法国二号冰舞选手Nathalie Pechalat/Fabian Bourzat又宣布他们将离开现任教练:一手缔造了华丽法兰西冰舞帝国的著名教练/编舞Muriel Boucher-Zazoui和Romain Haguenauer, 投师1994年利勒哈默尔冬奥会冰舞银牌得主,俄罗斯的Alexander Zhulin门下。



以下是法国媒体的报告。
http://www.sport.fr/hiver/pat/Pechalat-Bourzat-exil-Moscou-129440.shtm

法国的前三对冰舞D/S, P/B和C/J都是Boucher-Zazoui和Haguenauer一手带出的。

PB在记者会上表示他们做出此决定的主要原因是原本计划今年退役的2008世锦赛冠军,法国一号选手Isabelle Delobel/Olivier Schoenfelder在夺冠后改变了初衷,表示会征战2010年冬奥会。而PB认为如继续和DS同场训练,将无法摆脱千年法国老二的地位,只能继续waiting for their turn。 所以他们决定转投曾经带出奥运金牌选手N/K的Zhulin,他们表示希望这个转变能够让他们在2010年冬奥会夺牌。




相信P/B上赛季这套性感的OD给不少冰迷都留下了深刻的印象。

以前D/S也曾因Boucher-Zazoui和Haguenauer将主要精力放在A/P上曾短期投奔Tatiana Tarasova。看来即便同胞同门之间,分享教练也很难实现绝对的公平。 正像B/A和D/S的选择一样,P/B此番换教练是暂时性的还是长期性的,是好事还是坏事,前途尚不明朗,有待时间证明。

在此谨祝福所有选手新赛季好运。

  

P/B去年的自由舞,就是由Zhulin操刀的,他们的托举得到了D/L的真传,令人印象深刻。

这个是俄罗斯冰迷为PB制作的网站,非常漂亮。 http://pechalat-bourzat.narod.ru/

另外今年6月17日是Isabelle Delobel三十岁的生日,迟到的生日祝福,Isa,happy birthday!

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Cathy_Y 发表于 2008-7-14 23:54:52 | 显示全部楼层
PB转投Zhulin门下了啊......这...这个.......
pooool 发表于 2008-7-15 02:42:42 | 显示全部楼层
10年夺牌,恩,有野心是好事,很好很强大
外貌协会白金VIP 发表于 2008-7-16 12:21:09 | 显示全部楼层
对着某行字极为别扭……故意的么?

PB也换啊,其实真没觉得他们有那么大的必要换……不过,今年流行这个,是吧
joycehsu 发表于 2008-7-16 19:41:48 | 显示全部楼层
今年流行换教练吗?事在人为,大家自求多福。。。
fs2046 发表于 2008-7-17 07:59:52 | 显示全部楼层
Icenetwork对Kerr姐弟的采访

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080715&content_id=49348&vkey=ice_news




很有意思的一点是他们反复强调了今年会把更多精力放在提高比赛成绩上,让自己更具竞争力。

为了进入世界顶尖选手的行列,在2006年冬奥会后,他们就开始了一系列变化。

第一步是教练,他们很长一段时间没有教练,完全靠自学,偶尔会去曼彻斯特向John Slater求教。现在他们在新泽西跟随Plotov训练,受益匪浅。他们和教练已建立起了默契的感情交流。

第二步是战术思想。他们说以往太注重节目的创造性和艺术性,但在比赛里却拿不到高分。他们喜欢多些自由发挥的空间,但新规则对选手的限制太多了。要超越现在的世界顶尖选手,成为王中之王,首先技术要过硬。所以他们今年狠抓了用刃技巧,节目的编排也定位在既有竞争性,又不失新颖。

第三步是节目。他们的OD选用了黑人舞蹈(lindy hop)风格,他们还专门向摇摆舞冠军Robert Royston拜师学习舞蹈。FD他们的选曲比较舒缓,目的是让自己有更多机会表现流畅的用刃和滑行技术,同时修正自己在裁判心中表演缺乏深度的印象。



他们的目标是争取打破Torvill和Dean全英赛七连冠的纪录,今年他们将向六连冠发起冲击。

另外美国选手Navarro和Bommentre的FD将是街舞风格的fatboy slim,曲风俏皮欢快。而OD选用了舒缓,性感的曲风,为三段式,第一,三段为狐步舞,第二段采用电影谁陷害了兔子罗杰的原声。





两支舞的编舞分别为Barry Lather和Van Amstel,他们都曾为知名歌星编舞,最近令他们名声大噪的是ABC的热门节目Dancing with the Stars。

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080715&content_id=49349&vkey=ice_news

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草珊瑚 发表于 2008-7-17 10:20:01 | 显示全部楼层
啊~KK要滑Lindy!不知道弟弟要怎么把姐姐扔来扔去……
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