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昀灿 发表于 2008-1-29 00:43:23 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵我当时认为新衣服的颜色不太符合节目的主题,主要是觉得红色对“钢琴课”有些压抑的氛围来说是不是“亮”了?不过的确,那种红色也可以带有痛苦的意味。原来的服装近看不错,很符合情节,但是在冰场上效果似乎不那么理想。我的理想是把两套中和一下~~
原帖由 扶风 于 2008-1-28 00:22 发表
其实我对冬菇以及S/S倒没有太多的偏激看法,实在是某些冰鞋太嚣张了

我也是哦~~话说回来我其实很喜欢SS的节目~~跑题了,呵呵

今天正好看到Golden Skate对欧锦赛的报道,推荐,特别是含有自由舞报道的那篇,1-6名的采访引言都有。抱歉我现在来不及翻译,但是我觉得其中的报道和评价是比较中肯的。里面正好提到了DS(法)改变服装颜色的原因——棕色显得太悲伤,用红色表现激情(这或许也可以解释Isa姐姐的发型~~)现转引一下:http://goldenskate.com/articles/2007/euros_4.shtml
In the final showdown of the ice dance competition, Russia's Oksana Domnina and Maxim Shabalin regained their leading position with an inspiring performance to Masquerade Waltz. Skating after their rivals, they held nothing back. The flow of their Free Dance (FD) surpassed that of any other dancers who performed today.

While their performances earlier in the season haven't always been convincing, this time the 2007-08 Grand Prix Final champions have proven that the choice of music is the right one for them. It capitalize on their strongest points: excellent basic skating skills and lines.

"The idea of our dance belongs to Tatiana Tarasova," explained Domnina. "She suggested it at the end of last season. The actual choreography was done by Sergei Petukhov. I felt the story is self-explanatory. It's [about] poor Oksana being forced to marry an evil St. Petersburg's... well, Maxim, who had that evil gleam in his eyes. And that's what I was trying to portray today."

The students of Alexei Gorshkov seemed to float across the ice, delivering a powerful and dramatic performance which was marred only by the lack of speed in the end of the non-touching midline step sequence and relatively slow final reverse rotation lift. They placed first in the FD with a personal best of 104.99 (53.78/51.21) points, and moved up to first overall (207.14 points) to claim the gold.

"I'm speechless," said Domnina, at a post event press conference. "I think I left all my emotions back on the ice. We are very happy we survived the competition. I want to congratulate Maxim on his birthday and to thank him for his courage and his strength. Only he knows how difficult it was."

"It was the hardest competition of my career," added Shabalin. "We knew it was going to be difficult, because I had an operation (knee surgery) a month ago. It was a risky decision to come here, but now we know that it was the right decision. I made it on January 9th, when I returned to the ice for practice, and I knew that I would be able to train in order to prepare for the competition. The decision was risky because the doctors recommended three weeks of swimming and two weeks of cycling to regain the shape. And watching Europeans on TV."

"I really enjoyed dancing with Maxim tonight," added Domnina. "He was great, I really felt his support both inside and outside."

Defending champions Isabelle Delobel and Olivier Schoenfelder of France were great as well. Skating before their main rivals, they left nothing to chance, and executed all their elements smoothly. However, the change of the position in their combination lift was a bit heavy and the exit of the spin looked somewhat abrupt. In addition, their non-touching midline step sequence received only a level 3.

Nonetheless, those minor drawbacks didn't distract from the mesmerizing quality of their dance to music from the Piano soundtrack. The sign language seems to be a very appropriate theme for their subdued and sophisticated love story, which really silenced the audience, and the crowd loudly cheered the team as they took to the ice. The defending champions set a new seasonal bests by scoring 101.95 (51.69/50.26) for the dance, and 205.92 points total.

At the end of the performance, Delobel pumped a fist in the air, but in the end, the team from Lyon had to settle for silver.

"You know there is a lot of stress and we did a good program," said Delobel, regarding her gesture. "I wanted to do the best and I did. I am a bit disappointed because we won at Europeans last year, and now we didn't. Anyway, we did a good job from the beginning of the event. That is life. That is sport. Fair play."

When asked about the changes they made to their dance, Schoenfelder replied: "I think we did some good changes, modified some lifts and some steps, and as we beat out best score, we must have done it right. For Worlds, we have to analyze our performance. Perhaps, we will change some steps. We still haven't got all levels 4, and that's our goal."

The team also changed costumes from a modest brown to a more vibrant red. "We changed our costumes, because the brown color we had before was too sad," explained Delobel. "We changed my costume to red because it's the color of passion and this dance is about passion."

Jana Khokhlova and Sergei Novitski won their first European Championships medal with an energetic performance of their Night at the Bald Mountain free dance. The 2008 Russian champions have improved their speed and power from the previous event, and really captured the audience's attention with the impressive lifts and tricky connecting moves. This time, they were able to maintain the momentum through all four minutes of the program, giving 100% on all their elements. However both their step sequences received only level 3. The team placed third in the FD with a new personal best of 99.66 (51.46/48.20) points, and 197.06 points total to win the bronze.

"The crowd was awesome," said Khokhlova, after the event. "When they started to clap along during our side-by-side steps, it gave us so much energy."

"It was fantastic tonight," added Novitski. "It was probably the best performance of the season. We are well received everywhere, but here the crowd was just amazing."

When asked how they felt about winning their first European medal, Novitski replied: "I haven't realized it fully yet. I have chaos in my head right now - after the performance and the amazing reaction of the crowd."

When asked how they felt watching the Italians Federica Faiella and Massimo Scali perform, Novitski replied: "We watched them with mixed feelings. We really wanted to win our first medal at European, and we were probably more nervous watching them than before we went out to skate. There were just two points difference between us, and that's not much in ice dancing."

Faiella and Scali finished fourth in free dance with 95.29 (49.29/46.00) points and overall (190.95 points). Their program to Papa, Can You Hear Me? was highlighted by excellent transition moves and strong lifts, but Massimo stumbled towards the end of the serpentine step sequence and the element was rated a level 3. The Italian champions also only received a level 3 for the first half of their combination lift, but overall their soft and enchanting dance provided an excellent ending for the competition.

"We are very happy," said Scali. "We did a good job at these Europeans, especially after the last season (they were sixth). We were more ready mentally to fight for a medal. It was hard for us to skate last in the group. It was difficult to keep our focus. I think we did a great job in the Free Dance."

Nathalie Pechalat and Fabian Bourzat of France pulled back up to fifth place overall (185.26 points) after a clean performance of their "Craziness" Free Dance for which they earned 93.71 (49.24/44.47) points. The team did an excellent job in capturing and portraying the idea of a downward spiral towards insanity, which ended up with Bourzat putting Pechalat in a straight jacket. Their series of synchronized twizzles were also one of the most original versions of this rather standard element. The 2007-08 Grand Prix finalists managed to avoid major mistakes, even though they lost a lot of training time due to Bourzat's knee surgery.

"It was a bit hard to go out for the Free Dance because of the lack of practice after Fabian's surgery," said Pechalat. "But it's good that we fought until the very end and did a good competition without any major errors. Considering that we started training only ten days before, I am very pleased that we came, although we would have wished to achieve a higher placement."

"Yesterday we wanted to move up," added Bourzat. "Today we just wanted to do a good job."

The French team feel they can still improve on their footwork, which only received a level 3 at this event.

"Physically we can improve," said Bourzat. "We can improve our score at Worlds."

When asked if he spoke with Maxim Shabalin about the same surgery they both had, he replied, "Yes, we were exchanging glances at practice. We know that the other one is also hurting. We understand each other."

Sinead Kerr and John Kerr of Great Britain finished sixth in free dance with 89.97 (48.10/43.87) points and overall (182.06 points). The students of Evgeni Platov presented a very original program on a theme of space travelers, but Sinead slipped and fell in the corner while doing crossovers. Their serpentine lift and midline step sequence received only a level 3, and the team also took two deductions: one for a fall and one for an extended lift. Despite the errors, their unique lifts, bright costumes, and innovative connecting moves impressed the audience.

"It's always hard (to recover from a fall)," said John, "but I think we handled it relatively quickly. It happens to everyone, and all you have to do is get up and get on with it."

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franzlfan 发表于 2008-1-29 01:46:02 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 昀灿 于 2008-1-29 00:43 发表
"The idea of our dance belongs to Tatiana Tarasova," explained Domnina. "She suggested it at the end of last season. The actual choreography was done by Sergei Petukhov. I felt the story is self-explanatory. It's [about] poor Oksana being forced to marry an evil St. Petersburg's... well, Maxim, who had that evil gleam in his eyes. And that's what I was trying to portray today."


晕,还真是好意思……  

原帖由 昀灿 于 2008-1-29 00:43 发表
At the end of the performance, Delobel pumped a fist in the air, but in the end, the team from Lyon had to settle for silver.


这个动作,一看到描述马上就会出现在脑海里,和在空中画心形一样,是Isa姐姐的独特手语,唉,可是结果真伤心……[em66]


原帖由 昀灿 于 2008-1-29 00:43 发表
"You know there is a lot of stress and we did a good program," said Delobel, regarding her gesture. "I wanted to do the best and I did. I am a bit disappointed because we won at Europeans last year, and now we didn't. Anyway, we did a good job from the beginning of the event. That is life. That is sport. Fair play."

难道受压迫已经习惯到麻木了??!!  ………这已经不像她说的话了,5555555……

不能就这么服输啊!!!太便宜有些人了吧!!!

原帖由 昀灿 于 2008-1-29 00:43 发表

This time, they were able to maintain the momentum through all four minutes of the program, giving 100% on all their elements.


嗯,确实KN的FD这次是赛季以来发挥的最完整的一次了~~~虽然还不是太smooth,和NHK,GPF比已经好很多了~~发现欧锦赛场是他们的福地哦!去年也是,呵呵~~



原帖由 昀灿 于 2008-1-29 00:43 发表
"It was fantastic tonight," added Novitski. "It was probably the best performance of the season. We are well received everywhere, but here the crowd was just amazing."


嗯的确,这个赛季以来,他们受欢迎程度飙升啊^_^

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marlin + 5 + 1 抚摸……真的压麻木了么……-0-!
扶风 + 5 + 1 难受啥咧,该有的终究会有~~
昀灿 + 5 + 1 抱抱~我很赞同;看到那句话也难受了好半天

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fs2046 发表于 2008-2-1 10:35:16 | 显示全部楼层
Isabel和Olivier如果知道遥远的中国有真么多喜爱和支持他们的朋友一定会很欣慰的。扶风的标题真贴切,“莫愁前路无知己,天下谁人不识君。”

这是他们官网上新加的法锦赛照片。Isa/Oli给我的感觉和他们今年的服装及风格一样,低调的华丽,平静的力量,自然的温情。











我很心水的一个托举







一直很喜欢法国冰舞选手,永远有独树一帜的风格。祝他们世锦赛好运。



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olychamp + 5 + 1 感谢感谢,祝他们世锦赛取得好成绩。
扶风 + 5 + 1 也只能在话语上支持他们了~~
昀灿 + 5 + 1 感谢贴图,谢谢支持
franzlfan + 5 + 1 谢谢亲贴图……:)

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franzlfan 发表于 2008-2-1 12:22:55 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 fs2046 于 2008-2-1 10:35 发表



这张合影……C/J 好可爱~~   可惜这个赛季看不到他们了……

不过法国国内的巡演Stars Sur Glace第一站一般都会播出,所以还能再看多一次~~
franzsfan 发表于 2008-2-2 23:11:16 | 显示全部楼层
我在月光宝盒传了欧锦赛FD的BBC2台HQ版以及swt1的大体积HQ版,虽然不是很全,不过看起来很舒服,尤其是swt1台的,画面真pp~~  (我的硬盘快爆炸了,又舍不得删,赶紧买新的去……

另外在FSU上看到一个票选最佳现役冰舞女伴的帖子,给几个人取的花名挺有意思的,zt过来呵呵:

Diva Domnina                    
"Barbie" Belbin                
Goddess Khokhlova                
Princess Tessa

都挺贴切的哦~~
(不过我觉得冬菇在场上一点都不够Diva,比老沙差远了,场下倒是Diva做派十足)
pooool 发表于 2008-2-2 23:27:02 | 显示全部楼层
DIVA?冬菇中的DIVA吧!
olychamp 发表于 2008-2-3 00:23:22 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 franzsfan 于 2008-2-2 23:11 发表
我在月光宝盒传了欧锦赛FD的BBC2台HQ版以及swt1的大体积HQ版,虽然不是很全,不过看起来很舒服,尤其是swt1台的,画面真pp~~  (我的硬盘快爆炸了,又舍不得删,赶紧买新的去……

另外在FSU上看到一个票选最佳现役冰舞女伴的帖子,给几个人取的花名挺有意思的,zt过来呵呵:

Diva Domnina                     
"Barbie" Belbin                 
Goddess Khokhlova                 
Princess Tessa

都挺贴切的哦~~
(不过我觉得冬菇在场上一点都不够Diva,比老沙差远了,场下倒是Diva做派十足)


Denkova其实好像比Khokhlova更有Goddess的‘范’。

个人感觉欧洲的女伴普遍比较冷艳,cool,强势;北美的女伴比较娇美,cute,亲切。

问个老土问题,‘冬菇’的名字是咋来的?
 楼主| 扶风 发表于 2008-2-3 00:27:39 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 olychamp 于 2008-2-3 00:23 发表


Denkova其实好像比Khokhlova更有Goddess的‘范’。

个人感觉欧洲的女伴普遍比较冷艳,cool,强势;北美的女伴比较娇美,cute,亲切。

问个老土问题,‘冬菇’的名字是咋来的?

这个问题要问你的LS了
他们是怎么说Del的
franzlfan 发表于 2008-2-3 01:43:30 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 olychamp 于 2008-2-3 00:23 发表

个人感觉欧洲的女伴普遍比较冷艳,cool,强势;北美的女伴比较娇美,cute,亲切。


……说白了就是不及欧洲的女伴有个性/震慑力,哈哈,的确如此~~Khokh目前确实不能和Den姐姐比啦,觉得有些气质也是岁月打磨出来的,看看她以后会怎么发展~~

关于冬菇的典故,这个帖子里大约是大奖赛GPF那段时间有讲到,版权归圈圈所有~~等他来了再讲一遍哈~

原帖由 扶风 于 2008-2-3 00:27 发表

他们是怎么说Del的


他们没有给Isa姐取花名,但是Isa姐目前票数最高,开心吧~~
 楼主| 扶风 发表于 2008-2-3 03:10:44 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 franzlfan 于 2008-2-3 01:43 发表

他们没有给Isa姐取花名,但是Isa姐目前票数最高,开心吧~~

俺的心里瓦热瓦热滴~~
顺便坐个SOFA。。
公道自在人心,只要广大冰迷买他们的账就好
等着看四大洲赛
fs2046 发表于 2008-2-7 12:52:36 | 显示全部楼层
欧锦赛的美照,送给小f,灿灿,扶风,还有所有喜欢冰舞的朋友们,祝大家新年快乐!

期待08世锦赛舞台上一场更为华丽绚烂的精英盛会。




















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昀灿 + 5 + 1 谢谢~~新年快乐!
franzsfan + 5 + 1 谢谢!也祝亲新年快乐哦!^_^
扶风 + 5 + 1 新年快乐~~f亲

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 楼主| 扶风 发表于 2008-2-11 00:59:32 | 显示全部楼层
大半夜的,还要跑到网吧来打字~~ 学校的网从昨天就开始断了,估计我走之前是好不了了。。
不过终于算是有所慰藉,借着今天自己的生日,把这篇赶做的关于Del&Sch的蒙太奇发上来
年岁日臻,过节的心也渐渐淡了,不知道是不是自己老了~~不过幸好能生于此际,有大把的机会认识和记住很多很多让心里感到温暖的人,并可以凭借自己的微薄之力把深藏在内心的情感表露出来,给那些喜欢的未曾蒙面的人们。
这个Montange做的很是粗糙,因为手头没有收全他们的视频,自己保存的也基本上不是高清的;再加上自己对制作软件的不熟练,只能做做最基本的剪切和合成,那些特效都不怎么会用非常可惜~~ 神啊,请再多给我些时间吧!
不过也算是自己对他们的一份小小心意,祝愿他们能在即将到来的3月带来今年最动听的消息
他们于我而言,是生命中一个不可或缺的存在。如此暖人心窝
大都会,2008。
一个微小且珍重的纪念。
年初,希望自己也能有所斩获,无论是在哪方面~~
另感谢F的谆谆教导,使我对sony vegas7.0有了前所未有的深刻了解。。(这句MS有语病~~)
那么现在就开始启程吧!

montange.wmv (4.96 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3cjpxqth1xj
ds.wmv (92.28 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?8xx42mz1ryu
上面两个视频其实是一样的,下面那个虽说是高清,可画质跟上面那个差不多,就是尺寸大些~~汗
蒙太奇是短了点,谁叫那歌只有2分40秒。。
不是我存心偷懒~~可是一时又实在是找不到更适合的Music

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pooool + 5 + 1 后知后觉圈来贺喜!!!
昀灿 + 5 + 1 辛苦辛苦~生日快乐!
franzsfan + 5 + 1 Nice work!新年快乐!^_^
mirror0208 + 5 + 1 辛苦辛苦

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mirror0208 发表于 2008-2-11 01:03:11 | 显示全部楼层
老乡辛苦了
PS 生日快乐
 楼主| 扶风 发表于 2008-2-11 01:07:01 | 显示全部楼层
老乡嫩也太快了,我刚编辑了一下你就冒出来了~~
新年新气象,希望大家都能有所收获
mirror0208 发表于 2008-2-11 01:12:31 | 显示全部楼层
这年头,速度速度
视频我都看完了,还是90M+的那个
YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL~~~
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