[05-06] 都灵冬奥会双人滑比赛自由滑专题

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飞天神猪 发表于 2006-2-16 14:19:00 | 显示全部楼层

一直不想评价T小姐,现在也气不过了。

确实从运动技术来看,T小姐绝对是出色的,心理素质也绝对过硬,能在如此大的压力下出色完成比赛,能在受伤后如此快地恢复高水平也值得钦佩!

可是作为奥运会冠军,她绝对没有奥运会冠军的风度。几年前第一次看到她时,我差点跌掉了眼镜:俄罗斯竟也有如此难看的女人!不过难看不是她的错,中国的申雪也不好看,但气质好也很好嘛,运动场上毕竟要靠实力,脸蛋毕竟不代表成绩。

一开始,我也相信T小姐性格也许就像傻大姐那样,说话不转弯,心地还是好的。但几年下来的几件事让我也放弃了对她的幻想。一次次地恶意诋毁中国选手,对中国选手除了在面对申雪赵宏博的时候,她还能礼节地做到热情礼貌,对庞清佟健就显得视而不见,对张丹就更是长年来耿耿于怀。昨天终于在电视介绍张丹张昊的片子中无意间看到在04年张丹张昊第一次夺得大奖赛时的颁奖镜头,T小姐竟然在亚军领奖台上对一旁难得地笑了,可却是鄙夷的笑容,带着嘲笑,也许那时ZZ英语差闹了笑话了吧,可你也不能嘲笑人家啊,毕竟后备是第一次夺冠啊!

这些年T小姐从来不给张丹张昊任何好脸色过,即使年轻人真的冒犯过你,作为长辈作为同行,作为冠军你也应该原谅一下吧。即使礼节上也可以。可她即使在冬奥会颁奖礼也还在全世界观众面前拆两个年轻人的台,这人真是做绝了!

想到T小姐曾经在家乡比赛坚持用英语接受采访,拒绝说俄语,可见这人也不是有多爱国的。但在与张昊相撞后,却全用最恶毒的俄语骂张昊了,在媒体上还用英语的优势叫嚣着中国选手不长眼睛,处处装可怜。为什么她骂张昊用俄语?估计是忌惮张昊的强壮,怕张昊万一听懂了英语,会打她吧。

想到这些年来T小姐在国际赛场上的表现和“表演”,我只能遗憾地总结:她的成绩是夺目的,技术也差不多是俄罗斯双人滑历史上最好的,比赛气质也是无庸质疑的。但她的人品实在不值一提,简直是丢人现眼,丢光了俄罗斯花样滑冰的良好的声誉,俄罗斯能出这样的人真是不幸,真是丢光了俄罗斯民族的脸面!

飞天神猪 发表于 2006-2-16 14:20:00 | 显示全部楼层

一直不想评价T小姐,现在也气不过了。

确实从运动技术来看,T小姐绝对是出色的,心理素质也绝对过硬,能在如此大的压力下出色完成比赛,能在受伤后如此快地恢复高水平也值得钦佩!

可是作为奥运会冠军,她绝对没有奥运会冠军的风度。几年前第一次看到她时,我差点跌掉了眼镜:俄罗斯竟也有如此难看的女人!不过难看不是她的错,中国的申雪也不好看,但气质好也很好嘛,运动场上毕竟要靠实力,脸蛋毕竟不代表成绩。

一开始,我也相信T小姐性格也许就像傻大姐那样,说话不转弯,心地还是好的。但几年下来的几件事让我也放弃了对她的幻想。一次次地恶意诋毁中国选手,对中国选手除了在面对申雪赵宏博的时候,她还能礼节地做到热情礼貌,对庞清佟健就显得视而不见,对张丹就更是长年来耿耿于怀。昨天终于在电视介绍张丹张昊的片子中无意间看到在04年张丹张昊第一次夺得大奖赛时的颁奖镜头,T小姐竟然在亚军领奖台上对一旁难得地笑了,可却是鄙夷的笑容,带着嘲笑,也许那时ZZ英语差闹了笑话了吧,可你也不能嘲笑人家啊,毕竟后备是第一次夺冠啊!

这些年T小姐从来不给张丹张昊任何好脸色过,即使年轻人真的冒犯过你,作为长辈作为同行,作为冠军你也应该原谅一下吧。即使礼节上也可以。可她即使在冬奥会颁奖礼也还在全世界观众面前拆两个年轻人的台,这人真是做绝了!

想到T小姐曾经在家乡比赛坚持用英语接受采访,拒绝说俄语,可见这人也不是有多爱国的。但在与张昊相撞后,却全用最恶毒的俄语骂张昊了,在媒体上还用英语的优势叫嚣着中国选手不长眼睛,处处装可怜。为什么她骂张昊用俄语?估计是忌惮张昊的强壮,怕张昊万一听懂了英语,会打她吧。

想到这些年来T小姐在国际赛场上的表现和“表演”,我只能遗憾地总结:她的成绩是夺目的,技术也差不多是俄罗斯双人滑历史上最好的,比赛气质也是无庸质疑的。但她的人品实在不值一提,简直是丢人现眼,丢光了俄罗斯花样滑冰的良好的声誉,俄罗斯能出这样的人真是不幸,真是丢光了俄罗斯民族的脸面!

冰雪心灵 发表于 2006-2-16 14:27:00 | 显示全部楼层

在这里咨询一下高人:

张丹在自由滑中,在摔倒受伤的情况下成功地完成了2A+3T的连跳,这个动作是不是在女单中都很少见啊?

不知道有谁做出过,我只知道伊藤绿(不过她那个超级恐怖,是3A+3T)

飞天神猪 发表于 2006-2-16 14:48:00 | 显示全部楼层
今年青少年大奖赛冠军韩国金MM的一个连跳就是2A+3T.
红红火火 发表于 2006-2-16 14:51:00 | 显示全部楼层
张丹和张昊在奥运会赛场上所表现出的勇敢,坚强,勇于拼搏的精神,是你,我,以及其他人都所不具备的。他们平时刻苦的训练,不为冰冷的冰面所破,坚强,勇敢,激扬,出色的表现了“龙的传人”所具有的精神!也体现了奥林匹克的精神!这就是胜利。在奥运会赛场上他们实现了自己的价值!
其实在张丹和张昊出场前,中国已经获得了银牌和铜牌,而俄罗斯组合“托特米亚尼娜/马里宁”,获得了在他们出场前的第一名。张丹和张昊的出场就是去冲击金牌,唯有如此。但,这以是不可能的事实,俄罗斯组合“托特米亚尼娜/马里宁”没有出现大的失误,只是在托举和抛跳上有些瑕疵(裁判对他们分数打的特高),为此大家已经在知道了张丹和张昊出场前金牌的归属。
事实证明他们获得了银牌,他们成功了。他们用心演绎了音乐《龙的传人》,同时他们也获得了雷鸣般的掌声。故事并没有结束,他们还很年轻,比赛的历练使他们更加成熟,四年后当他们站在奥运会赛场上的时候,他们会为中国取得一枚金灿灿凝聚了血与泪的金牌。
不知道他们的伤怎么样了,可以参加下星期的表演吗,可不要勉强。下个月就是今年的世界锦标赛,加油!
dale 发表于 2006-2-16 14:53:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用飞天神猪在2006-2-16 14:20:29的发言:

为什么她骂张昊用俄语?估计是忌惮张昊的强壮,怕张昊万一听懂了英语,会打她吧。

这句话经典~~~~~~~~~

支持!!!!!!!!!!!

红红火火 发表于 2006-2-16 15:00:00 | 显示全部楼层
托特米安尼娜是个没有头脑的家伙,说好听的就是嘴巴快。而且心胸也极其的狭窄,眼睛里容不下半点沙。相对来说男伴马列宁,要稳重的多,但也只是表面,暗地里他们这对贼婆父一路货。马列宁知道在对记者的采访中说了一些话,是过了点,所以在领奖台上和张丹,张昊他们假装热情,以挽回他们冠军的风采。所以说马列宁相对头托特米安尼娜要稳重的多。
本来我也没说什么,后来看到托特米安尼娜接受外国采访的镜头,特别是接受欧洲台采访时,说“张丹受伤是自找的”恶婆娘这时还笑的出来,太欺人了,还抢了马列宁的话筒,但是这个问题当时是要给马列宁说的,马列宁沉默了几秒钟,没发话,恶婆娘就抢去说了一大堆恶心的话!一点道德心都没有!!!!还边说,边笑,真恶心!!!![em45]
花与爱丽丝 发表于 2006-2-16 15:02:00 | 显示全部楼层

S/P对tt的表现也是很不赞同的嘛!TT果然不得人心

tatyana 发表于 2006-2-16 15:07:00 | 显示全部楼层

请问在哪可以看到TT接受EURO SPORT的采访的视频啊?让我看看这个烂女人的恶心表现~

艾丝米拉达 发表于 2006-2-16 15:20:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用花与爱丽丝在2006-2-16 15:02:13的发言:

S/P对tt的表现也是很不赞同的嘛!TT果然不得人心

我可以发挥一下想象么??

想T转职业后参加北美的明星队。。。。却不得人心。。。。根本没什么人理她。。。

吼吼~~不知道俄罗斯多如牛毛的冠军们,会不会觉得这个金牌同胞让他们汗颜呢??

离恨恰如春草 发表于 2006-2-16 15:20:00 | 显示全部楼层

刚刚下了双人滑自由滑来看,感到加拿大那对D&D的动作是,大毛病不多(除了最后那个托举),但是小毛病是挺多的啊。女选手也有些太胖了,总体感觉是比张丹张昊四年前的表现都是有差距的,美加媒体想把他们捧出来还是相当有难度的……

至于t巫婆,我已经气了好几天了,不想再说什么了……

离恨恰如春草 发表于 2006-2-16 15:30:00 | 显示全部楼层
还有俄罗斯的O/S,感觉他们还不仅仅是状态的问题,抛跳单跳几乎每个都有问题,更像是基本功不过硬,托举3个里面有两个是双手的,而且也不稳。还有就是个人觉得饮酒歌和女人善变这两首我都很喜欢的歌似乎不是特别适合做LP的音乐。
艾丝米拉达 发表于 2006-2-16 15:38:00 | 显示全部楼层

DD的托举看的我心都抖~~女伴的身材问题,确实难为男伴了~,不过想捧也不是不可能,只要他们能做到TM这样所有动作不失误,什么艺术论啊灵魂论啊,现在都不那么重要了

OS奇怪,看他们一年来的比赛,似乎一次不如一次,怎么搞的,,,不过等老大老二都退役了,他们换个教练啊,俄罗斯再重点培训一下啊,也可以捧出来的

俄罗斯可以走裁判路线,美加走媒体路线,只有可怜的中国运动员。。唉~~

花与爱丽丝 发表于 2006-2-16 15:38:00 | 显示全部楼层

FSU上的关于aggressive warm-up,还提到05 worlds的那次碰撞

1 . They were clearly running the Russians (specifically TT/MM) in the warm-up. I actually wondered whether it was a tactical decision by the Chinese coaches. It was not pretty. However, they may have gotten themselves in this frantic agressive mode on their own, and as a result had too much adrenaline going into the program.

2. I don't blame Tatiana for not being sympathetic. If this is the usual behavior and attitude from Zhang then a big fall is really what she gets. They can't possibly want to collide with another team but it doesn't matter. That's exactly what can happen (and FWIR it did) and it's unecessary.

3. Completely agree! Zhangs have been known for being too aggressive, even towards their own Z&S. Poor sportsmanship on their part.

4. I don't think the Zhangs would try to crash into someone on purpose, nobody would. I think Tatiana and Vasiliev are a bit paranoid, or that there's always a conspiracy against them . Someone please tell them that the world does not revolve aorund them. I think it is no secret that Vasiliev has always tried to put the chinese teams down. When you have several pairs skating together, it may seem as if someone is coming at you. Yao cares too much about all his students to tell them "go ahead and crash into other skaters".

5. 回复no.4 Exactly my feelings. He lost me when he suspected Zhao's injury would be faked

6.ITA. They seem like a paranoid bunch. Someone is always out to get them. From all his comments about Zhao faking his injury, to the intentional "collision", etc, they just seem a bit too concerned about what others are doing to them

7. Vassiliev is well-known for his paranoia about the Chinese, and as Tatiana is his girlfriend, she's probably been well indoctrinated. Last year, Oleg accused the Zhangs of deliberately bumping into TT, who was standing on the ice with her back turned. Big Zhang did bump into her, but according to eyewitness Alexei Tikhonov, it was entirely accidental. And it was Zhang who suffered the most from the collision. He hurt his back and it did affect the Zs performance. Given that previous incident which left big Zhang injured, I hardly think the Zhangs were trying for a repeat before their Olympic skate.

I noticed Tatiana glaring at the Zhangs during the interruption after Dan Zhang fell. Afterward, in that interview, TT as much as said she (Dan) deserved it. Now there's schadenfreud for you.

8. Do you actully read what you write?
Enormous Zhang crashing into petite Totmyanina and suffering the "most"?
Can you be even more ridiculous and ill-intentional than that?

9.Tanya had to go through quite a bit of rehabilitation after the crash with Zhang and once the competition was over. He's easily twice her size, and she was at a standstill when it happened

10。IMO, Tatiana has never come across as being a good sport. I still remember her making faces at Shen and Zhao's marks in Dortmund, which was not being a good sport at all b/c T&M still won anyways.

11. Yes, i remembered that. She's so cold and rather unsportsman like. She needs to take lessons from Kwan on how to behave or i assure you she will not be well liked by people when she works with them in Stars on Ice or Champions on ice. When they mean retired , do they mean retire from Pro and exhibition events as well?

12.Was she aware that the cameras are targeted at her at that time? --- 呵呵~~估计不知道

13.回复no.10 的 That is true. Out of the three (Oleg, Tatiana and Max), I think Max tends not to come out against the other skaters. Maybe the other two felt that the other teams were stealing their thunder: first it was Dortmund, then the SP with I/B's throw 3A, then the story of Zhao's journey to the Olys and then Dan Zhang showing a corageous determination to compete. Who knows. Whatever it is, it doesn't look nice, and out of respect and good manners they should keep their comments to themselves rather than to

离恨恰如春草 发表于 2006-2-16 16:54:00 | 显示全部楼层

数了一下,站在t巫婆那边的,1、2、3、8、9

站在我们这边的,4、5、6、7、10、11、12、13、14!!!

9:5,很明显的优势!!看来群众的眼睛是雪亮的!!!真理掌握在大多数人的手里!!!

不过t巫婆还有粉丝真是想不到,看来,当年那次大头朝下让她攒了不少人情分……

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