[05-06] 都灵冬奥会双人滑比赛短节目专题

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柳潇湘 发表于 2006-2-10 13:42:00 | 显示全部楼层
中国的跳跃和单人转的同步问题如果能顺利,拿个好名次应该不会有太大的意外。
wushuang122 发表于 2006-2-10 14:17:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用gtxys在2006-2-10 13:25:22的发言:
我觉得LP出现在最后一组可能性最大的是TT/MM,Pv/Tv,S/S,Z/Z;S/Z和P/T,O/S,I/B可能会在倒数第二组出现!我感觉以现在的趋势,S/Z想要赢过Z/Z,可能性不是很大!

结合了一下S/S在本赛季的得分,最好的节目分也就7.5以下,别望了S/Z再怎么低也不可能低于7.5吧,S/S出场最后并不见得很好,压力大!很容易失误的!你不可能对S/Z这么没信心吧!S/Z加油!如果P/T发挥好了很有可能排在第四,他们的节目内容分也挺高的!

gtxys 发表于 2006-2-10 15:27:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用wushuang122在2006-2-10 14:17:21的发言:

结合了一下S/S在本赛季的得分,最好的节目分也就7.5以下,别望了S/Z再怎么低也不可能低于7.5吧,S/S出场最后并不见得很好,压力大!很容易失误的!你不可能对S/Z这么没信心吧!S/Z加油!如果P/T发挥好了很有可能排在第四,他们的节目内容分也挺高的!


小姐,你不觉得自己说话前后矛盾么?!你自己明明在9层的发言说认为中国三对最有可能短节目下来排在4-6位,现在又嫌别人对S/Z没信心,呵呵,你不怕闪着舌头啊!

S/Z一个赛季没有出现了,而Z/Z这个赛季一直很顺,从全运会完成抛四,到分站的两个冠军,再到总决赛的第二,我觉得他俩赢S/Z的机会非常大!赵宏博在没有受伤的情况下,04世锦赛在单跳上出现了很大失误,而Z/Z很少在技术上出现失误,即便第二个分可能不会很高,但是从现在的情况来看,S/Z的第二个分未必能背地起技术分所拉下来的分数!况且,这个赛季自从赵宏博受伤以来,我们没有任何人见过他很顺利地完成单跳,所以我对S/Z的信心不远如对Z/Z来的足!支持是一码事,现状是另一码事!

带点醉意的笑 发表于 2006-2-10 15:48:00 | 显示全部楼层

同志们,Oleg Vasiliev又发话了,在访谈中他提到在欧锦赛之后对TTMM的技术动作作了一定调节,一切都是为了让裁判注意到而得到加分,他说并不期待张张和庞佟的节目中有什么新东西,但很感兴趣申赵的状态,准备去看申赵夜间的训练,但从各种新闻管道中我们已经知道申赵9号夜间的训练临时改成了康复治疗(官方理由是因为上午的训练效果很理想),应该不是巧合啦^_^

skipped the introduction, it mostly talkes about Russian skaters arriving. Vasiliev talked to the press after the draw:


- We spent the final training in St. Petersburg. It was OK. We didn’t advertise the we were in town so the reporters didn’t bother us. We got a little medical treatment, when through a complete exam, and got needed recommendations. Tania felt a little sick only twice in the last two weeks, but it was very insignificant.

As for coming to Torino late, Vasiliev said,

- It wasn’t necessary to fly here early. The rink is familiar to us. The locker rooms and the draw room are the same. Even the walls color didn’t change. We remembered how we felt last year so we didn’t have to get used to anything. Only that the transportation system seemed too confusing. We got to the village at one in the morning, went to sleep right away, and in the morning, we looked for a bus for a really long time, so we just called a cab. We planned two pre-Games practices, only one of them is at the main rink, at 7:50 in the morning on Saturday. Of course, we would’ve liked to train later, but we can’t choose.

Q: Does the early time affects the practice?

A: Naturally. You can wake your head up at eight in the morning, but your body is still sleeping. We have to build a warm-up differently so we could adjust better. It’s especially hard for Tania – she is used to getting up later. On the other hand, there should be nothing unexpected. At the last Games, Tania and Maxim weren’t contending for the high placement, so they could just skate and enjoy it. It’s different now, but their previous experience helps. They know how to behave and what to expect. It’s always hard to come and face the unknown

Q: Are you satisfied with the short program starting order?

A: Under the new system, your skating group doesn’t matter. I would’ve not been upset even if they drew first. It’s not bad now. The best group will start right after the resurfacing, so the ice should be good.

Q: What is your goal as a coach here?

A: To save my team from possibly being nervous. Sometimes we have to participate in some events, be at press-conferences, but I try to put the minimal mental pressure on my skaters. It’s such a thin line – we have to decline some requests for interviews and I know very well how easy it could upset somebody. I try to prevent that. Honestly, I’m more used to coaching but it looks like I’ll manage for now.

Q: Did your programs remained unchanged after winning the Europeans?

A: We worked on some elements a little and made them more difficult. Those changes are not noticeable for the untrained eye – it was mostly done for the judges so we could get extra points.

Q: Did you see how the contenders are skating?

A: I didn’t get to the Chinese practice in the morning. Maybe I’ll go to their evening practice. I want to understand how much in shape Shen and Zhao are. I saw the two other teams this season so I don’t expect something new from them. On the big scale, it doesn’t matter. We have to skate. I don’t think you should expect something unbelievable. Most important is not making mistakes.

Q: How did you settle in Torino?

A: We didn’t have time to look around much, but it seems my better than at SLC. It’s very comfortable now before the rest of the Russian skaters came – we don’t have to share common areas with anyone, we don’t have to get in line for the shower in the morning, nobody is making noises or bothers us when we rest. The rooms in the Olympic village are much larger than the last time.

Q: A

风铃 发表于 2006-2-10 17:06:00 | 显示全部楼层
为啥对SP抽签这么敏感咧其实就我个人的感觉,裁判早在看训练的时候,已经在心中打下座次了,关键是运动员们自己不要东想西想,该有的实力发挥出来就好。LP的签会比SP更重要,我也希望抽在俄罗斯人前面比赛,不过我相信中国三对选手都算久经沙场,应该还是会控制自己的,他们的心理素质一向不错。

天空很希腊 发表于 2006-2-10 17:17:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用风铃在2006-2-10 17:06:07的发言:
为啥对SP抽签这么敏感咧其实就我个人的感觉,裁判早在看训练的时候,已经在心中打下座次了,关键是运动员们自己不要东想西想,该有的实力发挥出来就好。LP的签会比SP更重要,我也希望抽在俄罗斯人前面比赛,不过我相信中国三对选手都算久经沙场,应该还是会控制自己的,他们的心理素质一向不错。

比较赞同风铃的观点,虽然我们的抽签不如人意,但是我们还是应该理智一些,说实话就我个人而言,短节目的抽签一出来,我就不抱什么"争夺金牌"的美好愿望了,先前的紧张情绪一扫而光,也许这样的结果更能让我心中坦然许多吧!!!!!!!!!!!!

wushuang122 发表于 2006-2-10 17:51:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用gtxys在2006-2-10 15:27:47的发言:

小姐,你不觉得自己说话前后矛盾么?!你自己明明在9层的发言说认为中国三对最有可能短节目下来排在4-6位,现在又嫌别人对S/Z没信心,呵呵,你不怕闪着舌头啊!

S/Z一个赛季没有出现了,而Z/Z这个赛季一直很顺,从全运会完成抛四,到分站的两个冠军,再到总决赛的第二,我觉得他俩赢S/Z的机会非常大!赵宏博在没有受伤的情况下,04世锦赛在单跳上出现了很大失误,而Z/Z很少在技术上出现失误,即便第二个分可能不会很高,但是从现在的情况来看,S/Z的第二个分未必能背地起技术分所拉下来的分数!况且,这个赛季自从赵宏博受伤以来,我们没有任何人见过他很顺利地完成单跳,所以我对S/Z的信心不远如对Z/Z来的足!支持是一码事,现状是另一码

请你放尊重点!我的性别是男!还有可能是我表达能力有限!第4-6是我的预感!而且出现的可能是在PV/TV,T/M,S/S发挥正常的情况!而且,我说S/Z进前二是有条件的:S/S失误!请别断章取义!!
天空很希腊 发表于 2006-2-10 18:01:00 | 显示全部楼层
一直有个问题很不解??那就是为什么近两年的世界性大赛:世锦赛,大奖赛(特别是新规则启动以后)当中,无论是比赛之前的抽签还是比赛当中的裁判与技术官员对动作的定级和判定上,总是对中国运动员极端的不利呢??是咱们的确是没有那个运气呢?还是没有那个冠军像呢??难道咱们就真的那么倒霉吗???一肚子的愤愤不平!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
瑶瑶 发表于 2006-2-10 18:31:00 | 显示全部楼层
天哪!我怎么总感觉S/S会夺冠……
adria 发表于 2006-2-10 19:00:00 | 显示全部楼层

也许那个梦会成真...zz夺冠,ss第二,tm第三...

冰清 发表于 2006-2-10 19:10:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用天空很希腊在2006-2-10 18:01:41的发言:
一直有个问题很不解??那就是为什么近两年的世界性大赛:世锦赛,大奖赛(特别是新规则启动以后)当中,无论是比赛之前的抽签还是比赛当中的裁判与技术官员对动作的定级和判定上,总是对中国运动员极端的不利呢??是咱们的确是没有那个运气呢?还是没有那个冠军像呢??难道咱们就真的那么倒霉吗???一肚子的愤愤不平!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

后者是由于俄罗斯的势力,我们无可奈何。至于前者,我记得以前有报道说,抽签也是完全可以作假的,比如球的温度不同等等。

风铃 发表于 2006-2-10 19:17:00 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得抽签根本无所谓,在这样的大赛中,谁也不敢说自己抽了一个好签,赛场形势转瞬即变,有的人会化压力为动力,有的人总想着前面的人失误了我可千万别失误才好,大家表想这么多行不行?比赛还没开始,先就开始猜测别人会黑哨了,都有点被害妄想症了。
eric2000 发表于 2006-2-10 19:28:00 | 显示全部楼层

我和风铃的意见一样,没必要这么神经过敏,抽了个坏签,就怀疑是俄国人干的,要是闹肚子那还不得怀疑是俄国人下的毒、受了凉怀疑是俄国人掐了暖气?…… 对于顶级选手,抽签不能影响他们什么,反过来说,SZ早点出场,发挥出色的话那包袱就扔给对手了。

Yvonne 发表于 2006-2-10 19:34:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用gtxys在2006-2-10 15:27:47的发言:

S/Z一个赛季没有出现了,而Z/Z这个赛季一直很顺,从全运会完成抛四,到分站的两个冠军,再到总决赛的第二,我觉得他俩赢S/Z的机会非常大!赵宏博在没有受伤的情况下,04世锦赛在单跳上出现了很大失误,而Z/Z很少在技术上出现失误,即便第二个分可能不会很高,但是从现在的情况来看,S/Z的第二个分未必能背地起技术分所拉下来的分数!况且,这个赛季自从赵宏博受伤以来,我们没有任何人见过他很顺利地完成单跳,所以我对S/Z的信心不远如对Z/Z来的足!支持是一码事,现状是另一码事!

同意。

昨天看新闻,赵的2axel摔倒,甚至让我感到“绝望”二字。

至于抽签问题,再不好的签终究也是自己人抽的啊,只能认命。

我现在最关心的是,在短节目结束之后,中国的三对选手有几对能进最后一组。

如果只有一对的话,我希望是z/z,因为他们是之中最具竞争力的。

网网狗 发表于 2006-2-10 19:48:00 | 显示全部楼层

昨天新闻好奇怪!

口口声声说赵完成了三周跳,但画面中出现的唯一跳跃就是那个摔倒的2A.看新闻时心情刚好一点,又郁闷上了!编辑水平也太差了

说起摔倒,昨天视频中看赵哥起跳高度没问题啊,落冰时角度很正,怎么摔了呢?还有,今年总决赛上咱们的P/T的抛3S看上去高度很够,也摔了;自由滑测试中P/T和Z/Z的抛3LOOP看起来高度也很够,还是摔了,有些莫明奇妙!可别成了心里障碍!

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